1500 point all comers (sort of) list

Hey all,

So this week I am having a friendly round robin tournament with some friends. They are playing: Grey Knights, Necrons and Chaos (or maybe Orks).

I've pulled together two potential lists, and am interested in your thoughts on which to use (and potential alterations to both if you have ideas and/or critique!.

The first list I pulled from a post Mushkilla had made about a battle he fought against 3 helldrakes:


Archon: Blaster, Venom Blade (had 5 points to spare so why not ), Shadowfield
4 Blasterborn in a Venom (I would have done a raider, but i only have 2 and they're deployed below)

10 Warriors + Splintercannon+blaster in a Raider w. Nightshields
10 Warriors + splintercannon+ blaster in a Raider w. Nightshields

5 wyches, haywire grenades, in a venom

5 warriors, Blaster in a Venom

6 Reavers, 2 blasters
6 Reavers, 2 blasters

Ravager, Night shields, retrofire jets (for deepstriking alternatives depending on terrain and deployment)
Ravager, Night shields, advanced aethersails

My plan is to deploy the two warrior squads outside the raiders similar to Mushkilla's tactics in his battle report.

Plan B is a variation of the above. The difference was to give myself some psychic alternatives by adding a farseer as folllows:

Archon: Blaster, Venom Blade (had 5 points to spare so why not ), Shadowfield
4 Blasterborn in a Venom (I would have done a raider, but i only have 2 and they're deployed below)

10 Warriors + Splintercannon in a Raider w. Nightshields
10 Warriors + splintercannonr in a Raider w. Nightshields

5 wyches, haywire grenades, in a venom

6 Reavers, 2 blasters
5 Reavers, 1 blaster + farseer on a jetbike. Kitted out with 2 psychic abilities.

3 guardian jetbike (was the cheapest troop choice to bring the farseer in. plan to hold them in reserve for late game objective stealing)

Ravager, Night shields
Ravager, Night shields


So had to drop a squad of warriors in a venom. Dropped the blasters from the warrior squads (which i wasn't sure i'd get full use of anyway) and (here's the sucky part) droped one reaver plus a blaster to bring to a sub-optimal 5 (but i only had enough models for 15 bikes in total anyway, so this works out for table top purposes).

So my concerns are as follows:
1. Neither list has anti-flyer (or flyers of their own). I'm trusting in Mush on this one that i can still make it work!!! LOL.
2. For the second list, I am just feeling that perhaps I have had to give up too much for the psychic options. That said, it is nice to have the Runes against the grey knight player on the psychic tests he'll be making.

Thoughts,. comments and suggestions are all appreciated!

In both cases I'd just have a unit of 9 Reavers with blasters. In the case of the second list you don't even need the Champion with them as the Farseer can run around with them.

A unit of 5 is pretty pointless as they synergise better increasing the unit size in intervals of 3 to acquire a special weapon.

Also, in such a shooty list I'm not sure the Archon fits. That unit of trueborn will be a pretty high priority target. Chance to remove 4 lances from your army and nab a warlord kill point. Yes please! Also, to be effective at all they'll need to get within 18" which is quite close for a fragile unit with not an incredible amount of target saturation.

Interesting thought.

I hadn't considered how the Archon with 4 trueborn being so potent would make them priority target #1 (particularly for the slay the warlord points).

So you think i would be better to actaully drop the trueborn for a kabalite warrior squad in a raider with one blaster? Slightly more sturdy transport, and more "meat shields" of expendible kabalite warriors to protect the archon with?

Although the original plan of this list was to try the Archon with the blaster, what about the following as a "plan B" as I do see that having such a blaster rich unit is risky for victory points


Duke
3 trueborn in a Venom with 2 splinter cannons
10 Warriors + darklance in a Raider w. Nightshields
10 Warriors + darklance in a Raider w. Nightshields

5 wyches, haywire grenades, in a venom

5 warriors, Blaster in a Venom

6 Reavers, 2 blasters, arena champ with venomblade
6 Reavers, 2 blasters, arena champ with venomblade

Ravager, Night shields
Ravager, Night shields