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PostSubject: Starting a new army (1000 pts)   Starting a new army (1000 pts) I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 07 2013, 14:37

Hi all,

I came up with this list based on the least required purchases but still be a viable list at 1000 points.

appreciate and comments!!



Archon - venom blade, shadow field (95)

Succubus - venom blade, CC weapon (70) ( I plan to get the Lelith model for the succubus. The model's cool and this the venom blade and the cc weapon)

9 Wyches - hekatrix, PGL, venom blade, HW bombs, Raider , dark lance, night shield, flicker fields, shock prow (218)

9 Wyches - hekatrix, PGL, venom blade, HW bombs, Raider , dark lance, night shield, flicker fields (213)

10 warriors - splinter cannon (100)

10 warriors - splinter cannon (100)

6 reavers - 2 cluster caltrops, 2 blasters (202)

998 total



The plan for this is for the 2 sets of 10 warriors start on foot *gasp* and the archon to be with one group of wyches, and the succubus be with the other group.

The Archon and Succubus will take one flank each, their raiders will move up and disembark everyone. The units will charge into the flanks. The raiders will turn their dark lances to any vehicles.

The reavers will charge even faster through the center, over the top of the units and try to cut as many of them up as possible. their second objective is to blast enemy vehicles

The warriors will then slowly move up and camp at objectives nearby if there are any. if there are none they will slowly move up and punish as many of the remaining enemy in the center as possible.

oh! I almost forgot about the shock prow. Its kinda a last resort of if something interesting pops up, it'll tank shock (aka suicide) against a tank or equivalent

my whole idea is to move fast. fast and get everyone in as soon as possible.

comments appreciated!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Starting a new army (1000 pts)   Starting a new army (1000 pts) I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 07 2013, 21:20

You are painfully limited with your ability to deal with too many vehicles, as large swathes of your army either lack anti-mech, or are delayed anti-mech.

Also, at 1,000 points, I think your HQ selection is too beefy - you don't need both a Succubus and an Archon to do what you're doing, indeed the Succubus is practically meaningless except as a bit of extra points being spent. I would probably suck off a few of your excess expenditures (prows, Succubus, caltrops, ect.) and consider other uses for those points in your army. Frankly, even the Warriors becoming Lance squads as opposed to s.cannon squads could be solid, as at least then you'd have some bite initially other than just popping out six poison shots from across the board.

I do like that you went Troop heavy, too many beginner generals do not, and it's a poor idea not to with DE.
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PostSubject: Re: Starting a new army (1000 pts)   Starting a new army (1000 pts) I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 09 2013, 16:46

+1 to thor, your severly lacking AT. So what I perpose is this.

He is right about being too heavy in the HQ department, so drop either the Archon or the Succubus (I would say the archon personally... just because he is more expensive) and the caltrops from your reavers to get a Ravager. At such low points level, a ravager is amazing at killing tanks.

Now there are several places you can go from here. Firstly you now have a wych squad out of place (since it has no HQ following it) So you could switch them to a warrior squad to give you some mobile firebase, or you could drop them completely and use those points to get another Ravager and a 5 man warrior squad w/ blaster in venom, and still have 18 pts to spare and put them around. Personally I would do the latter, but again its up to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Starting a new army (1000 pts)   Starting a new army (1000 pts) I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 10 2013, 14:24

came up with something new.

how does this look?


Succubus - venom blade, CC weapon (70)

9 Wyches - hekatrix, PGL, venom blade, HW bombs, Raider , dark lance, night shield, flicker fields, shock prow (218)

10 warriors - splinter cannon , Raider , dark lance, night shield (170)

10 warriors - splinter cannon , Raider , dark lance, night shield (170)

6 reavers - 2 blasters (162)

Ravager - 3 dark lances (105)

Ravager - 3 disintegrators (105)

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PostSubject: Re: Starting a new army (1000 pts)   Starting a new army (1000 pts) I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 11 2013, 15:00

way better. I personally would rather keep the dark lances on the 2nd ravager, but to each their own. I would also drop the shock prow, its useless to ram now due to not being able to turbo ram into something, and tank shocking is a death sentence for a vehicle now. I would use those points to give the succubus Haywires as well.

Oh, and keep the succubus' pistol as well. It counts as a close combat weapon in close combat (so you get the extra attack) and you can still shoot if needs be. Never have special weapon and a CCW when you can just have a special weapon and a pistol.
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PostSubject: Re: Starting a new army (1000 pts)   Starting a new army (1000 pts) I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 11 2013, 16:05

Succubus - venom blade,pistol , HW grenades (75)

9 Wyches - hekatrix, PGL, venom blade, HW grenades, Raider , dark lance, night shield, flicker fields (213)

10 warriors - splinter cannon , Raider , dark lance, night shield (170)

10 warriors - splinter cannon , Raider , dark lance, night shield (170)

6 reavers - 2 blasters (162)

Ravager - 3 dark lances (105)

Ravager - 3 disintegrators (105)

1000

changed it! my plan is for the disintegrators to take care of any termies or such my opponent might bring. and to give them a nice surprise since I heard people tend to ignore it

would it be possible for me to use a wych model as a succubus?
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