2000 Pt New DE player

Subject: 2000 Pt New DE player Tue Jun 28 2011, 19:16

New DE player. Thoughts?

HQ
The Duke 150

ELITES
5 Incubi w/Venom 165
4 Trueborn w/Venom 143
2 Shardcarbines, 2 Splinter cannons, splinter cannon

TROOPS
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
10 Warriors w/Raider 170
Splinter Racks, Flickerfield

FAST ATTACK
10 Hellions 185
Helliarch w/agonizer
4 Reavers 120
Heat Lance, Cluster Cantropes

HEAVY SUPPORT
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
1998

Subject: Re: 2000 Pt New DE player Tue Jun 28 2011, 21:09

jalapeno wrote:: New DE player. Thoughts?

HQ
The Duke 150
Not a bad HQ but which of his abilities will you actually use if it's just reroll drugs I'd consider something cheaper

ELITES
5 Incubi w/Venom 165
any venom works better with 2 cannons the incubi are ok just remember they haven't got grenades

4 Trueborn w/Venom 143
2 Shardcarbines, 2 Splinter cannons, splinter cannon
same as above with venom twin cannons, the unit is ok bit small but ok

TROOPS
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
You could lose up to 3 wyches per squad and still have an effective unit

10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
As above

10 Warriors w/Raider 170
Splinter Racks, Flickerfield
Splinter racks limit your speed which can be a problem as to use them to thier full potential you have to be in assault range.

FAST ATTACK
10 Hellions 185
Helliarch w/agonizer
Needs a PGL to be effective

4 Reavers 120
Heat Lance, Cluster Cantropes

Not a bad unit but very fragile

HEAVY SUPPORT
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Industry standard

1998

My comments in red.

I think unless you have your mind set on the duke you may consider other options like may be the baron.

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jalapeno wrote:: New DE player. Thoughts?

HQ
The Duke 150

ELITES
5 Incubi w/Venom 165
These are fine if you want to run them, but you need to get a succubus for assault grenades or leave them at home, difficult ground will not be your friend.Also, every bolter will target these as soon as possible. A Haemonculus with a pain token can really help here as well.
4 Trueborn w/Venom 143
2 Shardcarbines, 2 Splinter cannons, splinter cannon
dump the splinter cannons on trueborn, get blasters. The splinter cannons will be a waste since they are only assault 4. You could save points by getting them all shardcarbines if you really want to go this way.

TROOPS
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields
10 Wyches w/Raider 240
Hekatrix w/Agonizer, Shardnet, Haywire Grenades
Hydra Gauntlet, Nightshields

I agree with Strange Dude, you could drop a few and be just fine. Wyches, for all they fluff and hype, still hit like EMO Goth Guardsmen who don't know when to say enough is enough. They need units softened up to break things. They are much better at tackling armor,in my opinion.

Personally I am not a fan of any of the special wych weapons and I just do not believe denying the 1 attack makes that much of a difference. A tactical marine will only get one attack anyway so to me its a waste. I also advocate shooting characters. Pull the trigger, rinse and repeat.

10 Warriors w/Raider 170
Splinter Racks, Flickerfield
I don't see what advantage you get from this. 2 units in venoms is a better alternative. Cheap, fast. Add in a special weapon, blaster or shredder and you are set.

FAST ATTACK
10 Hellions 185
Helliarch w/agonizer
Love them, in a WWP list.I think you will find as I did they just do not hold up in a non portal list. 1 frag missle and they are running off the table.

4 Reavers 120
Heat Lance, Cluster Cantropes
Not a fan. But I am in the minority on this. for 10 points more you could get a unit of scourges with 2 haywire blasters.

HEAVY SUPPORT
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
Ravager 115
3 Dark Lances, flickerfield
1998

Yup. These are a win everytime.

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