1500pt TAC list - what to do with last 90 pts...

Fellow Archons,

It amuses me to take the same group of minions with me raiding against a variety foes - the better to judge the worthy from the wretch. I have some spare funds available and seek your thoughts on how I might make best use of them.

My minions:

Succubus, VB - 70
HEAMY - he is a miserable quack, I hope he dies first -50
5 wyches, hekatrix, VB, haywire, raider - 147

3 true born, 2 cannons, venom with 2 cannons - 121
3 true born, 2 cannons, venom with 2 cannons - 121

10 warriors, cannon, raider - 160
10 warriors, cannon - 100

9 jet bikes, AC + VB, 3 blasters - 263
9 jet bikes, AC + VB, 3 blasters - 263

Ravager, NS, 3 lance -115

Total 1410

Was thinking 2 small kaballite squads for objective camping/ taking and as distractions?

Your thoughts would be appreciated - barely, I'm an Archon, I don't do gratitude

(Seriously fellas, I'm new to this and would really appreciate some input)

Good on you for aspiring to run a TAC list. I find it makes you a better player in the long run.

Snakeman wrote:

10 warriors, cannon - 100

Personally I would get these guys a raider, gives you some more armour saturation and another lance. However keeping them on foot means you can afford another ravager (see below).

Snakeman wrote:

9 jet bikes, AC + VB, 3 blasters - 263

Your paying 5pts too many, these are actually 258pts (total 9 models).

Snakeman wrote:

Ravager, NS, 3 lance -115

I would drop the night shield, they really are an all or nothing investment, and seeing as you don't have any night shields elsewhere, your opponent just needs one weapon with 48" range to make that investment void. If he doesn't it means he won't shoot your ravager, but it won't waste any of his shots as he will just shoot one of your other transports (trueborn).

So you saved 10pts on the reavers, 10pts on the night shields leaving you with 1390 points. Add another ravager and that should give you 1495. This should give your list some more long range AT and some more redundancy (not to mention ravagers are never a bad investment in terms of funds when it comes to DE).

Hope that helps.

Welcome to TDC!!!! Hope you enjoy your stay.

Now onto the list. There are several problems that I see here, let me explain.

Your HQs are fine, but do you really need 2 HQs at 1.5k??? I understand why the haemie is there, but is he really worth the pain token??? Personally I would pick one or the other, and use the rest of the points elsewhere.

As for the Trueborn, while they pump out alot of AI fire, your list is lacking elsewhere that they really arent needed. They are a nice addition, but seriously you could use the points elsewhere more effectly.

As for your troops, they are alittle on the weak side. Your problem is one unit isnt raidered up (DE die without their transports) and the wych unit is way too small to do anything of value. I suggest using some of those free points to up the wych squad and actually make them decent in combat.

Reavers are reavers... they have their uses. This is a decent way to run them.

As for ravagers, You really should have atleast 2 in 1.5k, if not 3. They are too good not to use and are our main source of AT. 1 is just not enough to deal with tanks.

Too be honest your list looks alot like what Mushkilla (the guy who posted above me) plays. I would suggest if you like the layout of your suggested army, look through his batreps (especially the later ones) and see if you would like something like that. While its not the best list, it suits his playstyle well, and I feel that you would enjoy it as well.

Was hoping to avoid buying another Ravager but I definitely see the logic of taking two. With all the jink saves plus 1 out there at the moment I was wondering how much sense it makes to shoot vehicles at all - have recently had some success with haywire witches but they are not easy to use and are one use only - sense of humour failure as soon as they waste the enemy tank.

Great batreps by the way