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DominicJ
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PostSubject: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 14 2013, 15:04

5 Wyches with Haywire grenades in a venom with splinter cannons.
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Razorwing, 4 monoscythes, FF, NS, 2 Lances
Razorwing, 4 monoscythes, FF, NS, 2 Dizzies

Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS

Archon, HB, SF, CD, ST
4 Incubi, Klaivex, Bloodstone
Venom, SC

Succubus, Agoniser, Haywire
4 Trueborn, 3 blasters, haywire
Venom, SC


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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 14 2013, 17:29

Skip NS on Jetfighters, and probably FF on ravager. I'd also be tempted to swap one jetfighter for a ravager. 1 singler ravager would be singled out and killed t1 as it is your only t1 AT.

What is the plan with the succubus? Ride with trueborns? What is the plan here?

You have 8 venoms, thats plenty of AI saturation which again says thatthe jetfighters doesnt make sense as they are less reliable AT than ravagers.

Wych madness...not sure how it'll work, but you have sooo many targets for the enemy to focus, some will survive,lets hope it's many enough!

Best of luck
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 14 2013, 19:54

I would say drop the jetfighters for 3 ravagers with 2 dl and 1 with DC ... Also switch the archon fr duke since he will help you ladies with a choice of drugs..  This also frees up points in your list to add hekatrix with VB which opponents would have a tuff time choosing whats to goafter your Incubi ravagers or crazy wytches coming into their face

I had a similar and it does wonders
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 15 2013, 13:11

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I'd also be tempted to swap one jetfighter for a ravager. 1 singler ravager would be singled out and killed t1 as it is your only t1 AT.

Probably, I'm gonna deploy it in some cover and hope it draws a lot of fire, If I go first, it might ge a few shots off.

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What is the plan with the succubus? Ride with trueborns? What is the plan here?
Mostly points filling, but it looks like a fun multipurpose squad, she can throw a haywire, three blasters on top can threaten a tank, with the venom, they are fairly shooty against infantry, and she can hopefully hold her own in CC, enough to finish any none squirminator squad thats already taken a beating.
For 90pts she is pretty fantastic.

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says thatthe jetfighters doesnt make sense as they are less reliable AT than ravagers.
My Ravagers dont have a history of surviving very long, and air has been a problem in my last three or four games.

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Wych madness...not sure how it'll work, but you have sooo many targets for the enemy to focus, some will survive,lets hope it's many enough!
Its my deathstar defence. I have 11 highly mobile units, 19 when dismounted, none are survivable, but there are just so many. Excluding the HQ units, each vehicle and squad averages 7.44% of my army. Farsight bombs Draigowings are just laughable when the best they can hope for is to blow up a 65pt venom or a 60pt wych squad.


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I was thinking about the Duke, but I'm not a big SC fan, and my archon is my only real hammer, even if he is a bit of a faux hammer.
AWESOME model by the way
I'll keep in mind for the future. He seems like he can chew up squads well enough, and I can always go back to killing HQ's with masses of splinter fire.
Do Trueborn Splinter Cannons get his poision bonus?
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 15 2013, 15:37

Yea only one warrior or trueborn unit but he must deploy with them in the start of the game but he can leave the unit afterwards if you wish
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 17 2013, 13:34

Played sisters, and I just dont know what I was thinking.
My strategy was, turbo turn one, I didnt.

It was a disaster, lessons learned.
Erm, take one flier and two Ravagers, or a lot of reavers and scourges for T1 AT
He (also called Dominic) had three pipe organ tanks, and they just ruined me.
I need more hitting power, I'm thinking of dropping the Archon for More Incubi.

I think two wych Venoms and an Incubi Venom as a strike package will work well.
Might keep my Archon but buy him a lascannon Aegis, he popped both my fliers with one

Admitadly, my archon was my only saviour, killing celestine, running down her seraphim, and then single handedly charging a big blog of sisters, killing the squad leader in a challenge and running down the rest. Other Dom appeared slightly shocked Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 23 2013, 23:05

5 Wyches with Haywire grenades in a venom with splinter cannons.
x6

Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS
Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS
Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS

Archon, HB, SF, CD, ST
4 Incubi, Klaivex, Bloodstone
Venom, SC

Archon, HB, SF, CD, ST
4 Incubi, Klaivex, Bloodstone
Venom, SC

Played Grey Knights, Scourging, won by dint of a T5 finish and me having three individual wyches against his squad of 6 terminators. He had a 2pt obectve, FB and Warlord, I had warlord, line breaker, a 2pt and a 3 pt.

Things that went well,
I massed the objectives around the fort on his left, and deployed on my left, his mobile units (dreadknight and a Raven/Termie Combo) came for me, I sacrified two wych squads and a incubi suad to draw them in and over ran his main force, 2dreads, 2 squads, 2 razors with haywire and swords.
He didnt have time to redeploy to take any obectives and he didnt have the range to clear me off mine.

Things that went badly.
A charging archon with 14 buddies failed to kill a dreadknight,

Turn one would have made it all so different.
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 25 2013, 12:53

5 Wyches with Haywire grenades in a venom with splinter cannons.
x6

Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS
Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS
Ravager, 3 Lances, FF, NS

5 Incubi, Klaivex, Venom, SC

4 Incubi, Venom, SC
Succy with Agoniser

9 Reavers, 3 blasters, Champ, Agoniser


Same rules apply, pray for first turn and a bloody victory, or get second turn and an even bloodier victory.

I wasnt happy with the second HQ, or the HQ at all for that matter, the second was overkill and the first very expensive for a lot of situational gain. S3 sucks and the Spirit Trap takes too long to pull off against anyone but angels and nids.
So I've swapped him for a cheaper succy, I've kept the second incubi squad, they are still seriously nasty, and added some jet bikes.
So now I have three squads who are all pretty effective in CC along with six suicide squads as overwatch bait, vehicle hunters and objective grabbers.

Its certainly taken me back to my original wych cult dreams!
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 25 2013, 14:50

DominicJ wrote:

Its certainly taken me back to my original wych cult dreams!

Nice to see this.
I was wondering if there are still viable ways of building a Wych Cult.

This looks like a fine way to do it through Venom Spam.

I was wondering if it would be worth to switch the Succy for the Baron. Because he would help with first turn and he could join the Reavers for better cover saves or hit & run.
Sadly you could lose some armour ignoring attack.
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PostSubject: Re: 1800pts of in your faceness   1800pts of in your faceness I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 25 2013, 17:20

DominicJ wrote:
Same rules apply, pray for first turn and a bloody victory, or get second turn and an even bloodier victory.

If you're THAT worried about it take Vect =P
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