1850 Coven-centric

Greetings all, after the past few months of playing with a core of Warriors/Trueborn/Incubi and an Archon, I'm looking to expand into the world of fleshcrafting. I'm not looking to cleanup with this list but to be competitive enough that I won't be wiped off the table. So I've come up with this Urien Rakarth list I was hoping some experienced Coven Masters could offer some insight on:

HQ:

Urien Rakarth
Haemonculus x3, Liquifier Gun x3

Elites:

Grotesques x3, Abberation, Flesh Gauntlet. Transport: Raider (Dark Lance)

Troops:

Wracks x9, Liquifier Gun. Transport: Raider (Dark Lance, Flickerfield)
Wracks x9, Liquifier Gun. Transport: Raider (Dark Lance, Flickerfield)
Wracks x9, Liquifier Gun. Transport: Raider (Dark Lance, Flickerfield)
Wracks x10, Liquifier Gun x2. Transport: Raider (Dark Lance, Flickerfield)

Fast Attack:
Scourges x10, Splinter Cannon x4

Heavy Support:
Cronos Parasite Engine, Spirit Vortex
Cronos Parasite Engine, Spirit Vortex
Cronos Parasite Engine, Spirit Probe

This is 1850 on the nose, which is a standard amount in my shop. Rakarth with the Grots, Haemos with the Wracks. Vortex away to my withered heart's content.

It's primarily a hobby army, but I was hoping to keep it this expanded if a list like this might perform well with some adjustments. I have plenty of the staple DE stuff like Ravagers/Hellions/Bikes/Kabals/Cults etc, so I can use those if need be. If the list won't be that fun to play I'll just curtail it to be smaller so I can save some time/money.

Hello there fellow Haemonculi! I made this account just to answer this post so I hope it helps  . The list looks rather solid for it's purposes although I would make some alterations, to begin with I would remove one or two of the Parasite Engines and take some ravagers instead, give the scourges blasters and maybe, just maybe replace the Urien. I know he's really awesome for lore purposes but he doesn't actually add much to the already paintoken filled armylist for what he costs. For his cost you could add one more grotesque for each squad, another wrack squad or some nice weird Coven arcane weaponry. The addition of ravagers and blasters on scourges are just to give you some more AT! Hope you find coven armies as fun as I have and good luck in bringing in some more slaves for your coven to experiment on MOHAHAH!

The list looks pretty solid, it will struggle with armour heavy lists but any infantry list or mixed list should be a relative breeze.

I'd definitely drop two of the parasite engines and replace them with pain engines as you don't need that many extra pain tokens in the list (if any really) but the one parasite engine works well with 2 pain engines to give them feel no pain and support them during the game. They also give you better anti-tank and more attacks (averagely). My only other critique is the scourges. Personally, splinter cannons on scourges aren't worth it as you will be spending the majority of the game moving and as the only unit on the board not in a transport it will be a prime target (even if they deep strike). Blasters are a good shout and would give you more anti-tank or even haywire. Have you thought about running them as 2 units of 5? This option is especially viable if you intend to deep strike them in as they can split their fire (or concentrate of the same thing if you need them too).

Hope that helps.

The Shade of Despair wrote:

A lot of truth

I was going to offer some comment, but instead I'll just say +1 to Shade's thoughts.

Very awesome, thanks for the Cronos advice, I can put the ravagers in that I already have. Will also play around with dropping Rakarth, I like his model so I'm amidst painting him right now. I'll most likely just use him as a standard Haemonculus.