500pts Wych Cult List

Hello everyone. I'm new around here and am new to Dark Eldar and I'm getting back into 40k after a very long time. I'm really into the idea of playing a wych cult list, but I'm worried at this points level that they're too small in number and will get shot to pieces. Tell me what you think;

Succubus, w/Agoniser, Haywire Grenades 90pts

4 Hekatrix Bloodbrides w/ Haywire Grenades. 75pts
+ Venom w/ Nightshields, Splinter Cannon 75pts

5 wyches w/Haywire Grenades 60pts
+ Venom w/ Nightshields, Splinter Cannon 75pts

5 wyches w/Haywire Grenades 60pts
+ Venom w/ Nightshields, 65pts

Any comments welcome,

Thanks

Not so much that your numbers are too few, but I'd really reccomend something that can penetrate a vehicle reliably. Swap a venom or two with a raider. That'll give you more anti-tank, the girls can do anti Infantry. Wouldn't bother with the bloodbrides, though, bulk up the wych squads instead.

I'd drop the haywires too, and use the points you save on those and the extra venom to snag a ravager, you can't afford to let tanks survive. (I know the grenades are fun, but they can't be counted on to penetrate, which is very important.)

So this would be bettter?

Succubus w/ Agoniser. 85pts

9 Wyches w/ Razorflail. 100pts
+ Raider w/ Nights Shields, Flickerfield. 70pts

5 Wyches w/ 50pts
+ Raider w/ Night Shield, Flickerfield. 70pts

Ravager w/ Night Shields, Flickerfield. 125pts

Total 500pts

Yeah... 500 point games differ from 1500-2000.

IMHO You can shave 20 points from all units (no haywires, no NS). Succubus don't need Haywires (not when You pay 5 points for them).

This is something I would field:

Succubus, PW 80 pts (PW because I was 5 points short and on this point level it's fair trade)

5 wyches + Hekatrix, PW 80 pts
Raider 60 pts

5 wyches + Hekatrix, PW 80 pts
Raider 60 pts

5 wyches + Hekatrix, PW 80 pts
Raider 60 pts

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Also OK, however I don't think You need dedicated AT on that point level when You can have more bodies and still pack DL. From my experience You probably don't need, nor should use any other slot different than Troops if You still have some free. Well, I found one exception - BA Sang Priests because they are underpriced force multiplier.

With the list you last posted Pete I'd drop the Razorflail and all the vehicle upgrades entirely and then give both squads a Hekatrix with Agoniser and even out the squad sizes. There's no shame in taking a Ravager as there is only so far a theme can go with competitveness. Ravager with Wych crew will look fine.

Question: How inportant is having that third dark lance? Could one not ditch the third raider and increase the the troop numbers, CC gear and Raider protection:

Succubus w/ Agoniser, Harwire Grenades. 90pts (I had 5pts spare.)

8 Wyches w/ Razorflail + Hekatrix w/ Agoniser. 130pts
+ Raider w/ Nightshield, 70pts

9 Wyches w/ Razorflail, Hydragunlets + Hekatrix w/ Power Weapon. 140pts
+ Raider w/ Nightshield, 70pts

Total 500pts

Would this create too few targets?

Edit: So..

Succubus w/ Agoniser. 85pts

5 Wyches + Hekatrix w/ Agoniser 90pts
+ Raider 60pts

6 Wyches + Hekatrix w/Agoniser 100pts
+ Raider 60pts

Ravager. 105pts

Which list is better? Edit: Please explain why.

Thanks

Liking the second, as far as cult lists go at that points level.

I think You can dump Wych weapons, they look cool but IMHO only Shardnets may be useful.

Also You could replace Hekatrix Agonisers with PWs - slightly less chance for wound but also half of Ago cost (You can buy additional Wych). Hekatrix don't have so much attacks anyway and You probably won't fight T4+ too often in 500 point game...

I like second list because it's similar to mine . I don't think that You need Ravager at this point level (I guess most armies can field 2-3 transports/light vehicles, if any) but it is better than 2x "Death Star". IMHO more bodies/units is more important than AT if You already have "something" so this is why I replaced Ravager and downgraded Agonisers for additional Troop in transport.