The only thing the Covens really lost was the PoF, black cornucopians gimmick. Well that and sniping Reapers. Neither of which strike me as a concern for a mostly casual player, as Brian claims to be. Beyond that, covens are better than they were, IMO. Artists of the Flesh grotesques and Talos are as tough or tougher than PoF against a lot of weapons, and DT liquifiers are bonkers good. I honestly think 60 point wracks with 2 liquifiers are the best troop unit, point for point in the codex. Hell, even 20 blobs of Dark Artisan wracks with a hexrifle and 4x ossefactors makes a great utility unit for holding objectives, sniping characters, and ripping up light infantry.
The primary complaint that they had re: covens was how much their functionality hinges on having PfP. His main problem is that he felt that his coven was unusable if he tried to ally some harlequins in, while kabals seem a bit more functional without PfP.
The only thing the Covens really lost was the PoF, black cornucopians gimmick. Well that and sniping Reapers. Neither of which strike me as a concern for a mostly casual player, as Brian claims to be. Beyond that, covens are better than they were, IMO. Artists of the Flesh grotesques and Talos are as tough or tougher than PoF against a lot of weapons, and DT liquifiers are bonkers good. I honestly think 60 point wracks with 2 liquifiers are the best troop unit, point for point in the codex. Hell, even 20 blobs of Dark Artisan wracks with a hexrifle and 4x ossefactors makes a great utility unit for holding objectives, sniping characters, and ripping up light infantry.
The primary complaint that they had re: covens was how much their functionality hinges on having PfP. His main problem is that he felt that his coven was unusable if he tried to ally some harlequins in, while kabals seem a bit more functional without PfP.
Huh. I mean I somewhat agree. So I guess they are really just upset about not being able to soup more than anything else. Covens are totally fine.
I am including 30 Wracks/Haemoxytes for the forseeable future. They have been an MVP since I started including enough of them. Even PoF seems better in a Wrack heavy list. Waffling between going PoF and a Custom Coven this weekend (Master Torturers and Splinter Blades average 13 saves from a 10 man squad!).
Im looking forward to listening to their next podcast. Something tells me they will be eating crow
Subject: Re: Splintermind reactions 
Wed Apr 14 2021, 01:46
