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PostSubject: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06 2012, 04:32

how do they work in assaulting vehicles? They are only S2 and most vehicles have a rear armor of 10, so a D6+2 will only get you an 8. Do you ignore this step and go straight to the haywire chart if the roll to hit is successful?

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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06 2012, 04:56

cougar_roger wrote:
Do you ignore this step and go straight to the haywire chart if the roll to hit is successful?

Yes. Roll To Hit, then roll all successful hits against the chart.

If within 8" you can throw 1 haywire grenade in the shooting phase - using Wyches BS To Hit, then roll against the chart if successful.

For Haywire Blasters you do include the Strength vs Armour comparison (if applicaable) then roll again on the Haywire chart so potentially 2 glances from 1 shot.

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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06 2012, 05:04

Thanks for the reply.

I also equip my archon with haywire grenades so I can use his high BS for the one shot in the shooting phase.
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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06 2012, 20:37

cougar_roger wrote:
Thanks for the reply.

I also equip my archon with haywire grenades so I can use his high BS for the one shot in the shooting phase.

Yes but if you equip him with a blaster then you can shoot with it and cc with the haywire. It is really up to you and your play style as to how you do this.
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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 07 2012, 06:49

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Yes but if you equip him with a blaster then you can shoot with it and cc with the haywire.

Actually throwing a Haywire is better (2's To Hit) vs using it to assault a vehicle (3's To Hit)

Blaster has better range, and can be done from onboard a Raider/Venom but as you say all comes down to personal play style


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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 07 2012, 06:59

I can't find anything that would prevent you from throwing a haywire grenade from a transport. It's not a blast weapon, so it could technically snapshot even if the vehicle moves more than 6".
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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 09 2012, 15:45

you can throw a haywire from a transport, it is a shooting attack and it isnt a blast (so you can snapfire it even)

Also the only reason they included a strength value with just in case some necrons scarabs got to chomping on a vehicle (as they can lower the AV total) so it is possible, just unlikely.

Also a good example would be the haywire blaster. It is S4 and haywire, so if you hit AV10, you have a chance to glance it twice.

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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 19 2012, 21:37

what about shooting from a vehicle now? i was never able to do this and i dont understand the rule. how far can say a raider with 10 kabalites in it, move and still be able to shoot at full ballistic skill, when do snap shots come into play?

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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 19 2012, 22:04

doomseer11b wrote:
what about shooting from a vehicle now? i was never able to do this and i dont understand the rule. how far can say a raider with 10 kabalites in it, move and still be able to shoot at full ballistic skill, when do snap shots come into play?

Thread about that here

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PostSubject: Re: noob question regarding haywire grenades   noob question regarding haywire grenades I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 21 2012, 18:05

thank you adhemar

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