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PostSubject: 2k WWP (Coven)   2k WWP (Coven) I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 24 2011, 01:17

Hello!

I've made this list:

HQ 325
Haemonculus, webway portal, Hexrifle 100
Haemonculus, webway portal, Hexrifle 100
Archon, Agoniser, Blaster, Webway Portal, Shadowfield 125

Elite 195
3 Grotesques (Aberration, Liquifier) 125 + Raider (NS) 70 = 195 <Archon*

Troops 580
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
10x Wrack, 2x Liquifier 120**



Fast 560
10 x Scourge, 4 Blasters 280 <Hex/WWP Haemi
10 x Scourge, 4 Blasters 280 <Hex/WWP Haemi

Heavy 340
Cronos, Vortex 100
Talos, Heat Lance, Chainflails 120
Talos, Heat Lance, Chainflails 120


Units marked with purple start in WWP.

* this squad is WAAC wound abuse stupidity that can soak few instakill AP 1-2 shots thanks to Shadowfield while rest stop on T5 FNP. Oh, Archon actually should deploy his WWP first, as "good start", hence everything start in lone Raider that hopefully would survive first turn...
** this squad can be thrown away, I've added it because I had 120 points left. if You havebetter ide how to spend those, I may consider it.

I actually wanted to pull of this trick with scourges but hopefully Archon would do that better (turn+12"move+2"disembark on turn 1).
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PostSubject: Re: 2k WWP (Coven)   2k WWP (Coven) I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 24 2011, 02:37

Are the Haems footslogging or riding in the Raider?
Wait - no, they're with the Scourges? I...hmmm...

I am not a fan of the Scourge/Haem combo. It seems like a weak WWP delivery pretty much no matter what.
The Archon is...okay...though I detest the idea of wasting time with him having to deploy a portal and not eating face.

You appear to want the Archon to deploy first...how do you see that working?

Move 12, disembark 2, deploy...wait till next turn, then move 6, assault 6? That's not getting you very deep into the enemy deployment zone.

I think my big issue is I think gunline will eat you alive and yawn as they do so. More aggressive armies will have bigger problems dealing with you.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k WWP (Coven)   2k WWP (Coven) I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 24 2011, 03:16

Yes... it's pretty light on shooting. I wonder IF replacing Taloses and Wracks with 2 Razorwings jets would be good...
Guess big Scourges units may be indeed bad idea, maybe 2x5 (with HB) + Beasts (Haemies start with Scourges, then leave pain tokens and hop into 4++ bunker) would be better?

I actually made list out of models I would like to see on board. Also Scourges are biggest pointsuckers here so I wonder if...

HQ 325
Haemonculus, webway portal, Hexrifle 100
Haemonculus, webway portal, Hexrifle 100
Archon, Agoniser, Blaster, Webway Portal, Shadowfield 125

Elite 195
3 Grotesques (Aberration, Liquifier) 125 + Raider (NS) 70 = 195 <Archon*

Troops 460
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92


Fast 260
5 x Scourge, 2 Haywire Blasters 130 <Hex/WWP Haemi
5 x Scourge, 2 Haywire Blasters 130 <Hex/WWP Haemi
Beasts (3 Masters, 4 Flocks, 5 Khymeraes) 156

Heavy 430
Cronos, Vortex 100
Razorwing, NS, FF 165
Razorwing, NS, FF 165

That leave me 174 points.

I could replace Archon (125) with WWP Haemi (85) so I would have 214 points for Troops and Elites. Maybe Blasterborn?
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PostSubject: Re: 2k WWP (Coven)   2k WWP (Coven) I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 03 2011, 02:55

Ok, I've stepped back a little..

HQ 265
Haemonculus, webway portal, 85
Haemonculus, webway portal, 85
Haemonculus, webway portal, Liquifier Gun 95

Elites 172
3 x Trueborn, 2x DL 86
3 x Trueborn, 2x DL 86

Troops 658
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
6 x Wych (5+Heka), Haywire, Power Weapon 92
10 x Wrack, 2x Liquifier 120

9 x Wrack, Liquifier 100 Raider, NS 70 <WWP/Liqufier Haemi

Fast 560
10 x Scourge, 4 Blasters 280 <WWP Haemi
10 x Scourge, 4 Blasters 280 <WWP Haemi

Heavy 340
Cronos, Vortex 100
Talos, Heat Lance, Chainflails 120
Talos, Heat Lance, Chainflails 120


Purple = in portal
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