my 1750 local tournament

Hello. Im still making experiments.

This list made 4th place (24 players total)

HQ

Archon
Agoniser
Combat Drugs
Shadow Field

this guy is a cowboy, he killed alot but I'm considering vanilla blastchon to save points

Elites

3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

Standard blasterborn, not leaving home without them

Troops

5x Warriors
Blaster
Raider
Flickerfield

5x Warriors
Blaster
Raider
Flickerfield

5x Warriors
Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

5x Wyches
granades
Venom
Splinter Cannon

5x Wyches
granades
Venom
Splinter Cannon

Unfortunatly I dont have points for 3rd raider, thats why 1 squad of warriors is in venom. My problem are wyches. They can reach any vehicle really fast, but without hakatrix with agoniser they die in no time.

Fast Attack

5x Scourge
2xHaywire Blaster

After tournament I worship cult of Scourge. 4x Haywire Blasters would be very nice. So here is a deal.
1. Sacrifice one unit of troops in venom.
2. Exchange one Raider for Venom.

While point 1 is acceptable, point 2 hurts. OF course there are some points on archon...

Heavy Support

Ravager
Flickerfield

2x Razorwing Jetfighter
flickerfield

Yes, not 3 ravagers but 2 razorwings. In most games both are reserved..

Another idea is list with reavers

Hq

Archon
Blaster

Elites

3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
venom
splinter cannon

3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
venom
splinter cannon

3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
venom
splinter cannon

Troops

5x Warriors
Raider
flickerfield

5x Warriors
Blaster
Raider
Flickerfield

5x Warriors
Blaster
Raider
Flickerfield

5x Warriors
Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

Fast Attack

6x Reavers
2x Heat Lance

6x Reavers
2x Heat Lance

Heavy Support

Ravager
Flickerfield

2x Razorwing Jetfighter
flickerfield

Heh... Razorwings... I dont like them, but you have enough AT with all your raiders, so Im sure your fine with them. Although both being in reserve is weird, even if you get to go first do you still reserve them???

As for the lists, I like the first one better, but the question is what is the Archon for??? You have him kitted out for assault, yet no assault unit has room for him??? I would lower him to either a haemie with Liquifer or just a blaster Archon. Use those points to upgrade that last Venom to a raider and get those scourges in.

Also I love scourges as well, but watch out for GKs, as they become almost useless against them.

Shadows Revenge wrote:

Also I love scourges as well, but watch out for GKs, as they become almost useless against them.

Why's that? I have a tournament coing up but haven't seen their codex.




On topic. I like close combat, and am not a unit spam person so cnt really comment if your list is any good. But from what I see - those lists are popular so must be decent. Shame you cant squeeze in ahekatrix with agonisers.

I just prefer variety and dont mind it making the games harder.

Shadows Revenge

Usually (80% gameplays) it was better to keep them in reserve. Originaly archon was fielded with 4 Incubi (+grenade launcher) but it was waste of points - venom blasterborn are better. Lonewolf Archon always made his points but as you noticed I have to find points for scourges/raider.

shadow hunter

I used heka with agoniser ( 2x5 wyches in venoms) but after haywire delivery and razorwing assault there is nothing to lash. Wyches are suicide commando in my list thats why I like scourges better, they can haywire from safe point. From the other hand Reavers with Heat Lances can hurt tanks/transports (if I dont roll snake eyes) and move few inches to "safe" possition.

Well, lets see. Dropping the Archon to a haemie and changing the two razorwings to Ravager nets you another 5 man Scourge w/ 2 HWB, as well as 20 pts to kill something out, either Shardnets on the wyches for tieing up dreads, or gear for the Haemie (or maybe your extra raider???)

Also I wouldnt waste Agonisers on 5 man wych squads. They are there to hit parking lots/dread duty. To waste 30 pts for some marinal MEQ is just meh... They arent going to survive being charged anyway.

@ shadowhunter. The reason why is all GK tanks have a psychic ability to get rid of shaken/stun effect. Pretty much think extra armor on every tank. It sucks, which is why

Shadows Revenge wrote:

@ shadowhunter. The reason why is all GK tanks have a psychic ability to get rid of shaken/stun effect. Pretty much think extra armor on every tank. It sucks, which is why

damn. was going to use 2 haywire blasters. might use 1 heat lance and 1 HB now

shadow hunter wrote:

Shadows Revenge wrote:

@ shadowhunter. The reason why is all GK tanks have a psychic ability to get rid of shaken/stun effect. Pretty much think extra armor on every tank. It sucks, which is why

damn. was going to use 2 haywire blasters. might use 1 heat lance and 1 HB now

Sorry to the OP for threat jacking...

I wouldnt mix your heavy weapons, as your HWB wants to sit back and shoot, while the HL wants to get close for the kill, now if you want to do two squads, one with HLs and one with HWB, that would be fine, but I prefer Reavers for HL duty, as they have many pluses to keep them alive