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AlCorps
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PostSubject: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2011, 18:46

This is pretty much the usual Venom Spam list, which I've been using for several tournaments now. Just need to figure out where to put my last points. I've tried a variety of units, including Beastmasters and Reavers, with varying degrees of success, but nothing has proven itself quite good enough.

This latest list includes a nice big walking wych blob, which has fairly useful a while back before I switched to venom spam.

Succubus: Agoniser - 85
Haemonculus: - 50

4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173
4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173
4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173

5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
3 Wracks: Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 95
15 Wyches: Haywires, 3 Shardnets; Hekatrix: Agoniser, Phantasm - 250

Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115
Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115
Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115

Total: 1719

Any suggestions on what to spend the last few points on? I would like to keep the wrack squad at just 3 models, so the haemonculus has somewhere to go after swapping pain tokens.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2011, 18:50

Don't like foot Wyches. Also not sure what Wracks bring to Your army.
How about picking 2 x Raider Wyches? Additional turn 1 AT would help (I like Raider/Venom mix.)
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2011, 19:43

going along Local_Ork's idea, about about droping the foot blob, wracks, and Succubus. And adding in two 5 man wyches w/ Haywires and Shardnet in a raider w/ FF (keeping the duality along) and 5 man Scourges w/ Haywire Blaster.

This way you can use them to tie up Dreads or hit up parking lots with T1 haywire assaults, while getting some more AT with the 2 DL and Scourges. I think this will serve you better than the foot wyches, which can be shot apart with almost anything looking at them.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2011, 19:48

Local_Ork wrote:
Don't like foot Wyches. Also not sure what Wracks bring to Your army.
How about picking 2 x Raider Wyches? Additional turn 1 AT would help (I like Raider/Venom mix.)

Unless there is a webway portal for them to jump out of you should ditch the walking wyche unit. 2 units of 8 in Raiders would be a huge help. If you wanted to keep them I would drop a couple of wyches and add a webway portal to the Haemonculus. they would be quite nasty that way and would give you Wracks something to do(Webway delivery system bodyguards for Haemy)
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 27 2011, 00:21

Also Wychs dont need a PGL, thats wasted points.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 27 2011, 01:40

I was planning on using these for late game counter-attacks or tying up death-stars, rather than aggressive play. The PGL has proven to be very useful in the past for this sort of thing.
My local meta is orientated towards mass shooting (lots of GK, SW and warwalker eldar), and very unforgiving to raider rushing wyches.

I'll have another look at wyches in raiders, though they have proven to be somewhat fragile in the past, and not quite killy enough with just one agoniser.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 27 2011, 15:09

AlCorps wrote:
I was planning on using these for late game counter-attacks or tying up death-stars, rather than aggressive play. The PGL has proven to be very useful in the past for this sort of thing.
My local meta is orientated towards mass shooting (lots of GK, SW and warwalker eldar), and very unforgiving to raider rushing wyches.

And this is why my suggested wyches work. Use the rotation trick to get these girls tied up into those Riflemen/Warwalkers. Pretty much what they effectively due is stop all shooting from that dread for the next couple of turns, and if your opponent drops a unit to bail out his Dread, then you have something else to shoot at with your venoms Razz
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 30 2011, 00:45

This list is a slightly more sensible alternative, based of the Belgium ETC list. It has the two nice wych units, but is a bit low on the venom count.

Haemonculus: 50
Haemonculus: 50

4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173
4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173
3 Trueborn: 3 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 146

5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
9 Wyches: Haywires, Shardnet; Hekatrix: Agoniser; Raider: Disintegrator Cannon, Flicker Field - 218
9 Wyches: Haywires, Shardnet; Hekatrix: Agoniser; Raider: Disintegrator Cannon, Flicker Field - 218

Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115
Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115
Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115

Total: 1748



This is another slightly odd list I tried tonight. I know I really shouldn't be using harlequins, but they are a fun unit, and hide the two Archons quite nicely. They can be a bit more agressive on enemy lines, and give me something to put on the table in cases where the rest of the army needs to fully reseve.

Archon: Djin Blade, Blaster, Combat Drugs, Shadowfield - 135
Archon: Djin Blade, Blaster, Combat Drugs, Shadowfield - 135

4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173
4 Trueborn: 4 Blasters; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons - 173
6 Harlequins: 6 Kisses, Shadowseer - 162

5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125
5 Warriors: Blaster; Venom: 2 Splinter Cannons, Flicker Field - 125

Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115
Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115
Ravager: 3 Dark Lances, Flicker Field - 115

Total: 1748
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Competitive list   1750 Competitive list I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 30 2011, 01:15

In list 1 I would lose the 'Nets for Haemie Liquifer Guns
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