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The Shredder
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PostSubject: 1500pts Corsairs + Grotesquerie   1500pts Corsairs + Grotesquerie I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 17 2016, 22:21

CAD:
Corsair Prince w/ Jet Pack, Void Sabre, Shadowfield, Wild Psyker (lv1), Survivor of the Endless Darkness (Warlord)
5 Malevolents w/ Jetpacks, 2 Melta Bombs
3 Cloud Dancers w/ Scatter Lasers
5 Corsair Reavers w/ Pistols, 2x Fusion Gun
- Venom w/ Scatter Laser
5 Corsair Reavers w/ Pistols, 2x Fusion Gun
- Venom w/ Scatter Laser
5 Corsair Reavers w/ Pistols, 2x Fusion Gun
- Venom w/ Scatter Laser
5 Corsair Reavers w/ Pistols, 2x Fusion Gun
- Venom w/ Scatter Laser
5 Corsair Reavers w/ Pistols, 2x Fusion Gun
- Venom w/ Scatter Laser
5 Balestrikes w/ Felarch, Jetpacks, 5x Dark Lance

Grotesquerie:
Haemonculus w/ Sindriq's Sum
3 Grotesques
- Raider w/ Disintegrator
3 Grotesques
- Raider w/ Disintegrator

1500pts

The Prince goes with the Malevolents, the Haemonculus joins one of the Grot squads.

Any thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pts Corsairs + Grotesquerie   1500pts Corsairs + Grotesquerie I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 18 2016, 00:34

Whats the reasoning behind  the Malevolent squad? As opposed to a Voidstorm squad? I only ask coz my understanding was they can have a negative impact on your other Corsair units. I know they get some cool USRs, FNP, Fearless etc.

Actually, if you never get out of your venoms the -Ld will not affect your corsairs and Grots are Fearless. Maybe Curse of the Void not such a determent then.

Still reading up on new Corsair stuff so if my question is gibberish feel free to ignore


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PostSubject: Re: 1500pts Corsairs + Grotesquerie   1500pts Corsairs + Grotesquerie I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 18 2016, 13:04

flakmonkey wrote:
Whats the reasoning behind  the Malevolent squad? As opposed to a Voidstorm squad? I only ask coz my understanding was they can have a negative impact on your other Corsair units. I know they get some cool USRs, FNP, Fearless etc.

Actually, if you never get out of your venoms the -Ld will not affect your corsairs and Grots are Fearless. Maybe Curse of the Void not such a determent then.

Still reading up on new Corsair stuff so if my question is gibberish feel free to ignore

No, not gibberish at all. In fact, I've always ben fond of this quote - “The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.” Smile

My reasons for Malevolents are:

- Fearless. Since my Corsair Prince isn't using Mask of Secrets (hence isn't Fearless himself), I wanted a Fearless squad for him to run with. In addition to the usual stuff, this also helps with his own abilities/powers - since Survivor of the Endless Darkness can cause a pinning test, and Perils of the Warp can either auto-pin the squad or make them pass a Morale test on 3d6 (taking the 2 highest) or fall back.

- S4 on the charge (which is usually slightly better than WS5). Granted, since they have only 1 attack base and Rage, they're worse than Voidstorm if the combat lasts multiple rounds. But, I'm relying on my Prince to do most of the work anyway - they're there more as a meat-shield. And that leads me to...

- 2 wounds apiece and FNP. Obviously this isn't amazing, since they're only T3, but it should still give them a lot more staying power in combat against most infantry, compared to Voidstorm.

- Fluff. With my Corsair Prince being a converted Mandrake, Malevolents seem like a more appropriate escort. Twisted Evil

In terms of the -1Ld penalty they impose, it's a bit of a concern but not too much. For a start, I can probably mitigate it by positioning my Malevolent squad on one of the flanks. But, even if it does catch a unit or two, I'm not particularly worried. As you say, my grotesques are basically immune, and my Balestrikes and Cloud Dancers should be nowhere near my Malevolents. That just leaves my Reavers. But, with 5-man squads of T3 infantry with 5+ saves, I doubt they'll even survive to have to make a Ld test. Put it this way - there's a reason I haven't bought Felarchs for any of them. Wink

The one thing that does bug me is that they can't score. Not much I can do about that though, other than detaching the Prince next to an objective on a crucial turn.

All that said, I'll probably give Voidstorm a go in the near future and see if I like them better. I've already written out a fluffier list with 2 Barons leading Voidstorm squads, alongside my Prince. So we'll see.


Apropos of nothing, but I think I'll try and fit a Void Dreamer into this list to join one of the Grot squads - the possibility of jumping them into combat on turn 1 could be very useful indeed.
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