Shadow Wars Wych Cult tactics

Can you fire two pistols from the same model?

You can if you have the special skill that lets you do precisely that. I think you have me muted though so if someone could quote me so he can see the post that'd be groovy.

I don't have you muted hahahaha. That sounds like it's an unlikely scenario, landing that skill that is

I want to play a Dire Avenger so I can do exactly that because I already have a model of one holding 2 pistols like a gangsta. To quote Asurmen: "I squee-I squeeze gats 'til my clips is empty."

Also, if I can use a pistol in close combat, Karl just went from being a monster in close combat to an unholy abomination that shouldn't even have rules.

Had another 2 games and had more time to read the rulebook abit. 5 space wolf scouts vs my wyches in an ambush. once i closed on him i essentially murdered his squad. I also got lucky in that i rolled 1 in the recovery stage twice so two of my models got back up (one slipped on acid earlier, it was actually kinda funny). And for some reason I thought you could only recruit, well, recruits in after game but you can say get a full fledged wych or bloodbride though you most likely won't have points for upgrades...unless you roll hidden cache on promethium thing like i did. bloodbride with hydra gauntlets...niice =). and i rolled +1 str for my shardnet bloodbride. str 5 in combat heheh ^^ still making rule mistakes though (my bad!) as there are a lot of nook and cranny rules to get used to with new situations turning up.

my other game was essentially destroy the promethium cache (which i did) and get my models off of the board (which I did not). the imperial guard player's reinforcement s caught me in the open and rolled the perfect table edge to just shoot my remaining wyches off of the board. note to self, hide more xD

Is anyone talking about how ridiculously OP the chainhooks are?

-3 AS + your opponent can't parry at 10 points

A powersword is 50 points and only confers -3 AS and allows you to parry. This seems crazy or am I missing something?

Yes. has been hashed to death. If not in pages 1-3 here then in the other thread. I also wouldn't say OP because that metric can't exist within the choices you've defined since that metric is about how it functions in the overarching system. There its still strapped to a T3 body with a 4++. You are missing 1 thing though: They only can't parry those attacks, so if your second weapon isn't another chain flail or an agonizer they can parry the other ones. Your also missing something else but I can't remember what it is.

amishprn86 wrote:

Pistols are a great melee weapon, IMO better than shooting, so mostly just run with them and use it in melee, i've shot the pistols only a couple times. a -2mod with 4+ to wound is really good. Chain hooks are somewhat better but if you dont get Str Drug needing 5's is harsh, so having a couple models that always wounds on a 4+ is nice, this also lets you keep them cheap (90pts) so if you need to replace them you are not replacing 110-150pts of model and wargear. You can afford to replace it and still get some better gear of something else.

I'm not seeing these rules. The assumption being made is that a pistol can be used in CC, use the profile of the gun, accounts for half of the attacks, and doesn't need to make an ammo roll.

I see rules for claim 1 and claim 3, but not for the other two.

I would assume if you're using the profile of the gun, you are shooting in close combat and thus would need to make some sort of ammo role. Given that the SWA rules are written in a sort of format like "here's the rule, here's the rationale for the rule" this would seem in keeping with that.

Are you including the FAQ in your sources

In Shadow war, 1/2 your attacks must be split if you have pistols or sometimes multi weapons.

A Dagger that is user str and 0 modifiers isnt as good as a pistol when making attacks.

Lets say you get 3 attacks with Dagger/Chain-hook, they both get re-roll (via Blade Venom) but 1 of the 3 wound rolls has to be on the dagger. If it were a Pistol then 1 (or 2) of the 3 wounds can be on that pistol.
The rules (even the faq) says you dont use ammo roles in melee with pistols.

Is this what you dont see in the rules? I can go get my Rulebook and page if you cant find it.

Ok so claim 4 is covered in the FAQ, good! Missed that!

I'm aware of how CC is broken up when using multiple weapons, but why would you use the shooting profile of the weapon in CC? It seems as though something more straight forward would be that the gun in CC had a profile equal to the base strength of the wielder. Like the wielder is bashing someone on the head with the gun.

Does it say somewhere that in CC when using a pistol, you use the pistol's profile (which up until now I thought was exclusively for shooting out of CC).

EDIT: I'm an idiot. Both remaining claims are covered in the FAQ. Nevermind!

Yeah Shadow war is a bit different, took like 5 games to get even used to it.

And I still mess up time to time.