21 Vehicle list

I always try to test a vehicle only list (only b.c i have 30+ vehicles for DE and its fun).

Outrider, x2
Haemonculus
Haemonculus
Venoms x2 SC: 75pts
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x2 SC
Venoms x1 SC: 65pts
Venoms x1 SC
Ravager x3 DL: 140pts
Ravager x3 DL
Ravager x3 DL
Ravager x3 DL
Dedicated transports
Raider DC: 80pts
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
Raider DC
NOTE: Can do 4 Razorwings instead (tho 1 needs to be 2 Discannons) of the Ravagers for Charging Protection and more -1 to hit

1995pts 21 vehicles, 16 Splinter cannons, 8 Discannons, 12 DL's


Equally, you can do 2 Archons and have it all Black Hearts for 6+++

Might be rusty but, how are you taking so many Dedicated Transports ? Isn't it 1 Transport per other choice ? You have 6 choices and 17 Transports.

I messed it up, its only 17 vehicles, I forgot Venoms are not Fast anymore XD

Can take 2 venoms 1 raider out and add 35 kabals for 17.

I like that better tho, now you have 7x5 mans as bubble wrap and taking objective hehe

This topic is relevant to my interests.

So... looking more into it, you can do 1-2 flyers in each detachment and each flyer can have a dedicated transport.

I like this idea better honestly. Will do a list later (Unless someone else wants too) b.c im technically suppose to be with family right now lol

anti infantry razorwings are a thing now being only 135 points or dissies

Why not take an archon of the black hearth to get a 6+++ on all these vehicule ?

Yeah, mathematically wouldn't it be better than an extra toughness? The toughness only applies to a couple weapon profiles. The 6++ Would just just be there. Also even though the trap card strat might not always be used, it really cancels some builds out immediately. I can think of a few meta top lists that aren't playable now just in case they come across any black heart army.

Quauchtemoc wrote:

Why not take an archon of the black hearth to get a 6+++ on all these vehicule ?

Good idea. I like it, its also more dice rolling and its fun to watch your opponent when you make some 6+++ rolls

Sorry, I'll hijack a little bit.

In our club, we don't really duplicate detachments, so no *2 Spearhead, but something like this might work?

Spearhead Detachment - Kabal of the Black Heart
Archon (reroll 1s to hit and wound w/ artefact, gains CP on 6+)
6 Ravagers 3 DL
2 Razorwing 2 DC
5 Raider DC
4 Venom 2 SC

18 DL, 9 DC, 8 SC.
Can swap a Raider for a Venom for more SC: 18 DL, 8 DC, 10 SC.

Or

Spearhead Detachment - Kabal of the Black Heart
Archon (Warlord, reroll 1s to hit and wound w/ artefact, gains CP on 6+)
4 Ravagers 3 DL
2 Ravagers 3 DC
2 Razorwing 2 DC
5 Raider DC
4 Venom 2 SC

12 DLs, 15 DCs, 8 SC.

150 pts left (I think?). What to do?
Haemy for 1d3 CP (you pay 1 but you may have 1-2 more CPs) and a Succubus for another warlord trait.
Kabalites for objective holders maybe. But it would go against the vehicle heavy list.

If you can duplicate detachments, problem solved: Go for 2 Spearhead and add a flyer/Venom + Raider
18-19 vehicles.