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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2011, 17:43

Before you make an $80.00 decision, play a few games using the Shredders. I swear I get far more wounds out it even without and AP value, and often can do damage to light vehicles with it too.

If you must have the blasters, I would definately go with the conversion option. I have seen some excellent conversions, I think on Warseer, and at Adepticon, where, at a glance, I did not notice it was a conversion.

I don't know what your time-table looks like but I'm sure I can come up with a few Blasters to trade, if you really need some. I don't plan on using any of them!
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2011, 18:07

If we talk about conversions - try using old Warrior Splintell Cannons.

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Just cut away "spiky" barrel and handles, glue them like they would be rifles and they should look a little like new (You may sculpt +++--- on barrel or attach end from Blast Pistol)

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I plan to do so with mine.

Also try Scourges box. There is Blaster and Blast Pistol.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2011, 20:56

I was originally going to do that, but found that it didn't work. The way I did mine was just cut off the barrel of a Shredder or a Splinter Rifle and glue a blast pistol head in. For the "sawn off" Lannces I did exacly as it sounds, cut off the barrel after the DL's darklight chamber (and didn't attach the tripod of the powerpack).
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 09:31

I've made extra blasters by using disintegrators and regular splinter rifles.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 10:40

They work well
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 11:56

Hey, someone managed to make DC useful!

Give this guy freaking medal!

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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 12:15

DC?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 12:17

Disintegrator (Cannon)
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 12:19

Yes... They were good alternative to Dark Lances (plasmacannon shot), now Mr T. pity them (IMHO they can be useful on "kamikaze" Raiders and flyers).
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 12:36

Does no-one use a ravager with 3 dissies?

I have been tempted, as I fight blood angels (death company) and will soon face grey knights (lots of termies)

In my gaming group we are not so much mechanised, so I dont need to worry too much about anti-tank weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 12:52

shadow hunter wrote:
Does no-one use a ravager with 3 dissies?

I have been tempted, as I fight blood angels (death company) and will soon face grey knights (lots of termies)

In my gaming group we are not so much mechanised, so I dont need to worry too much about anti-tank weapons.
If I'm gonna field dissies, I'd rather have them on a razorwing with a splinter cannon.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 13:23

I've not used the flyer yet. Waiting for the model. I will probably try that with dissies too though.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 13:52

I think that Venom with 2 SC have similar killing power to 3 Dis Ravager while beeing cheaper...

On Flyers - yes if You 't want to use them for killing infantry only.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 15:15

If MEQ are out of cover each disintegrator has the same average kills as a Venom.
(two hits wounding on 3+) (four wounds through armour 3+) both = 4/3
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 16:54

I've fielded a razorwing with Necrotoxin missiles and no dissies, took all it's payload to kill a squad of Blood Angels Honor Guard. We need that AP2, having tons of poisoned shooting as the defualt Anti-MEQ option ins't an effective use of the resources available to the army.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 02 2011, 02:55

I used Disintegrators every now and then. While yes, you can have two Splinter Cannons on a Venom, said Venom cannot hold enough Kabalite Warriors to have a Splinter Cannon on the Warriors. In some of the larger games, I swap out the Dark Lance on the Raiders for some additional Anti-Infantry punch. They really help when you have a friend who likes to Deep-Strike Chaos Terminators...

In addition, Disintegrators are great on Razorwing Jetfighters.

Finally, I have used a Ravager with 3x Disintegrators in a Combat Patrols game of 400 points. They took down about 4 Blood Crushers, 3 Jetbikes and a handful of Necron Warriors.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 02 2011, 02:58

I want to do a Combat patrol game with 3 Dissie Ravagers and a squad of Warriors. Let them try and get to me. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 02 2011, 08:01

I'll have to get his full list but a guy at my club who always top 3s the local tournies runs 2 ravs with lances and 1 with dissies. With about 6 raiders.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 02 2011, 08:13

I often have 2 Rav's with 3 DL's each, and 3-4 Raiders all with Dissies. Fine for most things I see walking around and light armour, and I love the extra shots.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 03 2011, 18:45

speedfreek wrote:
I've made extra blasters by using disintegrators and regular splinter rifles.
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That's an actual blaster on the left and the conversion in the middle?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 03 2011, 18:48

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 03 2011, 19:01

It actually look kinda like Shredder, but without those two "hooks" behind nozzle... Good stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 04 2011, 17:44

I'm lucky since I use shredders in my warrior squads I have 8 blasters left over from scourge and warrior sprues which is just enough for 2 blasterborn squads should I ever want to try them out.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 04 2011, 19:21

Or trade them to Xelkireth? Maybe? Huh? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: I'm in trouble...   I'm in trouble... - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 04 2011, 19:34

Dream on, Xel - blasters are some heavy stuff!
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