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PostSubject: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 03 2012, 11:25

Hello, since the codex arrived I always have been interested by Duke Sliscus. Although I never played with him I finally decided to field him.

This list I made has some more upgrades then I useally do. Normally I try to max out fire power like guard or marines (who hasn't lately).
But I have plenty dark light weapons and splinter weapons so I made a few units a bit more versitile (tooled wyches).
Duke is here for some tactical diversity (deep-strike option) and the drugs. The 3+ poison I have not a real unit for that. Maybe first attack to a warrior squad and later join the wyches.

Anyway, Here is my list I made up so far.

HQ

Sliscus

ELITE

3 kabalite trueborn
- 3 blasters
1 venom, 2 splintercannons

3 kabalite trueborn
- 3 blasters
1 venom, 2 splintercannons

TROOPS

5 kabalite warriors
- blaster
1 venom, 2 splintercannons

5 kabalite warriors
- blaster
1 venom, 2 splintercannons

5 kabalite warriors
- blaster
1 venom, 2 splintercannons

8 Wyches
- Hekatrix; power weapon, blast pistol
- haywire grenades
1 Raider; flickerfield, shockprow, torment grenade launcher

8 Wyches
- Hekatrix; Agoniser, blast pistol
- haywire grenades
1 Raider; flickerfield, shockprow, torment grenade launcher

FAST ATTACK

3 Reavers
- Heat Lance

3 Reavers
- Heat Lance

HEAVY SUPPORT

Ravager
- Nightshields

Ravager
- Nightshields

Ravager
- Nightshields

total: 1750

first tournament I will be attending witht his list is in february, no missions with KP Very Happy.



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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 03 2012, 11:51

I like the list.

First query is who is Duke starting with, looks to me that you're starting with some Trueborn and then jumping in with some Wyches.

I'm not sure of some of your upgrades. In can be debated but for me Flickerfields > Night Shields, especially on those Ravagers.

Not a fan of the power weapon on the Hekatrix, I also don't like the Blast Pistols.

If it was me I'd upgrade the power weapon to an agoniser, night shields into flickerfields, drop a blast pistol.
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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 03 2012, 17:56

The blast pistols are of negligible gain there - if you want them in the list for DS shenanigans why not get them on the Warrior squads? The Wyches are pretty much assured dead if you disembark them near much of anything when they can't assault.

Is the power weapon there just in the hope you roll up the +1 Str drug? Even at that stage it's still basically an Agoniser, as it will take FC to make it better than an Aggie and you don't have a Haem to kick start that combo - I'd probably just invest in the Aggie.
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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 04 2012, 20:36

Have you considered a Duke Gun Boat?

IE 4 Trueborn in a Venon 2 Splinter Cannons and 2 Shardcarbines?

Getting the 3+ poison?

Otherwise like it alot very similar to my fav 1500 list.
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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 06 2012, 16:35

Thanks for comments.

I understand comments, and I see I need to explain some choices.

for DS-ing, I only want to do that if the scenario allows it (tactically) and then still only with trueborn and a as much warrior squads I dare. So be thinking of 2 trueborn squads + 2 warrior squads. normally getting 2 vehicles in turn 2. By then I hope wyches will be assaulting something.

I am going indeed to upgrade PW to agoniser and remove one blast pistol. I still take 1 in 1 squad wyches, the one the Duke joins, so I have dual blast pistols, seems logical to me. The other unit will be running more the other one, well I think turn 2 assaults.

On the eternal debate Flicker field vs. Nigh shields Smile. I believe in night shields, because not getting shot at all is better then a save, Also most of the time I am claiming cover from venoms that are flying in front of it (flying base stick hight shannanigans, pisses people off sometimes, ah well Wink ). Also, people knowing when you have night shields usually move faster forward to get in range (in turn getting in my range of blasters and assault)
However! In my experience I can keep 1 or 3 ravagers out of range with help of nights shields from most guns. But one seems to be in range due to deployment zone being full of other vehicles and getting line of sight.
So I thought, why not mix the upgrades (I only so one or the other on all vehicles, or both, but I do not have the points) So 1 with FF and 2 with NS (or other way around) also a little more confusion for enemy: "So which one had the flickerfield again?..."

SO!

in changing my army list Smile

minus 1 blast pistol and upgrading PW to Agoniser, having 5 points left.

So what to do with 5 points? Grisly trophies oid?
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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 06 2012, 18:16

5 pts can go a long way in a DE army, so use it wisely.
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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 06 2012, 18:38

I'd go for sails on the skimmer of your choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments   Sliscus list 1750 - bringing the rockstar to tournaments I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 07 2012, 11:56

To be honest the way you are describing how you plan to use the list and whats in it, I am sceptical about the usefulness of the Duke. Intermittant use of DS and minimal gain from his drug rolls seems like you don't really need him. If you want to use him because you like him or the background or for a different style of list then thats cool, but I just don't think your using his abilities to the full.

Personally I'd be looking at getting rid of him and the 2 reaver squads, then getting a cheap HQ (succubus?) and more blasterborn or warriors in there.

I'm a FF over N/s on ravager fan, I don't believe that ravagers should be close enough to the enemy that the 6" will make any difference, but I agree it's a personal choice. I would say however that if you have N/s on some and FF on the other then this will need to be made clear to your opponent and should be shown in some way on the model, even if it is only by a token or somesuch. I wouldn't go into an event hoping to confuse someone as too which has which.
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