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PostSubject: Repost - Looking for more suggestions   Repost - Looking for more suggestions I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 29 2012, 05:14

Just played a 1850 pt list against a guard guy. I ran the WWP list i've been working on (which ill post as well). Annihilation/DoW. First turn, i move my one homun to just over his side of the board and drop my WWP, flat out my other raider behind cover just over my edge of the board. Second turn, I get out all of my units except the reavers and two of the talos, and dropped my second WWP. Charved vect into his command squad, and devoured that (got like 20 some odd wounds, unfortunately on my sweep roll, he rolled a 6 and I rolled a 2), and my wyches took out his leman russ (dual assaulted a russ and chimera, but got not even a glance on the chimera), no other damage inflicted. He then proceeded to flame all of my units into oblivion. At the start of turn 3 I gave up rather than keep playing and get tabled. Bloodbrides was down to vect and the syren. One wyche squad was down to a two shardnets and the hekatrix.

What would you do in this situation?

his list -

HQ
Company Command Squad 145
4 Meltaguns
Chimera
w/ Hull Heavy Flamer

Troops
3x
Veteran Squad 155
3 Meltaguns
Chimera
w/ Hull Heavy Flamer

Platoon Command Squad 105
4 Flamers
Chimera
w/ Hull Heavy Flamer

Infantry Squad 135
1 Meltabomb
Commissar
2 Power Weapons
1 Autocannon
Plasmagun

2x
Infantry Squad 90
1 Meltabomb
1 Power Weapon
1 Autocannon
1 Plasmagun

2x
Special Weapon Squad 50
3 Flamers

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Demolisher 165

2x
Hydra Flak Tank Battery 150
2 Hydra Flak Tanks

Fast Attack

2x
Vendetta 130

my list:

Elite
1 Asdrubael Vect
8 Hekatrix Bloodbrides + Razorflails x3
1 Syren + Agoniser

HQ
2 Haemonculi + Liquifier Gun x1 + Webway Portal x1

Troops

9 Wyches + Haywire Grenades + Shardnet & Impaler x2
1 Hekatrix + Haywire Grenades + Agoniser
Troops: Wyches (10#, 170 pts)

2x
3 Wracks, 30 pts = 3 * 10
1 Raider + Shock Prow + Flickerfield

5 Wracks + Liquifier Gun x1

Fast Attack
5 Scourges + Heat Lance x2

5 Reavers + Heat Lance x2
1 Arena Champion

Heavy Support

3x
Talos Pain Engine + TL Liquifier Gun + TL Haywire Blaster

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the big bloody blob on the right is vect and the command squad, to the South of that is the remainder of the command squad and the wyches are at the exploded russ (big red blob there too)

The five red splotches on the left of the map are the scourges... the bloodspot between the wracks and wyches (near center of map) was the only talos i was able to get out.
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PostSubject: Re: Repost - Looking for more suggestions   Repost - Looking for more suggestions I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 30 2012, 17:05

Did you charge Vect and the Bloodbrides at the one unit? I'm not very sure.

You never want to do so much damage on the charge that you are left standing around in the open. If you had caught the command squad, would you not have swept it off and been left in the same position. Could you have split the charge over more units to ensure that you remained in combat. With all those flamers in there you had to stay in combat.
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PostSubject: Re: Repost - Looking for more suggestions   Repost - Looking for more suggestions I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 30 2012, 17:28

Yes, I did charge them as they were the only thing not in a vehicle, and I was really hoping not to sweep him, but I cause something like 15 wounds total to his zero... then he rolled a 6 on his init roll and I rolled a 2 (9 to Cool, so no pain token goodness for me. If I had been VERY lucky, I might would have been able to get a unit or two at the chimera that flamed them at the end, but I didn't have HWG, so it wouldn't have done much good...
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PostSubject: Re: Repost - Looking for more suggestions   Repost - Looking for more suggestions I_icon_minitimeTue May 01 2012, 00:15

OK, well the key here was to minimise damage in your asault phase so that you could stay locked in to avoid all that return fire.

What I would have done is position models during the movement and run (fleet) phases to reduce the amount of attacks that I was getting on his unit, ie stringing out the bloodbrides away from the assault, thereby making it more likely that he would stay locked after that phase.
Then in his turn, after the pile in moves your units would floor him, freeing you up to assault in your next turn.

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PostSubject: Re: Repost - Looking for more suggestions   Repost - Looking for more suggestions I_icon_minitimeTue May 01 2012, 00:30

That's a great idea!... would have been nice to think of that at the time... I've switched out one of the talos for a chronos to help get some pain tokens that the army desperately needs, we'll see how that works... the DoW deployment hurt as I couldn't get the second WWP out fast enough...

I think I also had some really bad rolls in the end as well...
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PostSubject: Re: Repost - Looking for more suggestions   Repost - Looking for more suggestions I_icon_minitimeTue May 01 2012, 10:53

It's easy enough to think about it after the event. We all get kill frenzy every now and then during the heat of battle.

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