1850 point list, help make it competitive

This is my first list on the forum, so lets hope this goes well! im fairly new to 40k but i am familiar to the game, so heres my current 1850 point list....

Asdrubael Vect 240points
4 Incubi 88points
Venom with splinter cannon, chain snares 70points

Duke Sliscus 150points
9 Warriors, splinter cannon 91points
Raider, flicker field, splinter racks 80points

10 Wyches, shardnet and impaler, Hekatrix, venomblade 125points
Raider, flicker field 70points

10 Wyches, shardnet and impaler, Hekatrix, venomblade 125points
Raider, flicker field 70points

10 Wyches, shardnet and impaler, Hekatrix, venomblade 125points
Raider, flicker field 70points

5 Warriors, splinter cannon 55points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

Ravager, night shield, flicker field, 3 dark lances 125points

Ravager, night shield, flicker field, 3 dark lances 125points

Razorwing Jetfighter, night shield, flicker field, splinter cannon, 4 monoscythe missiles, 2 dark lances 175points

1849 point total

What do you guys think? Thanks for all the help if given!

Not an overabundance of firepower, do you need so much CC with three wyche squads please Vect and his minders?

Also, you need 10 warriors in each squad before they let you out to play with a Splinter Cannon

how does this look....

Asdrubael Vect 240points
4 Incubi 88points
Venom with splinter cannon 65points

Duke Sliscus 150points
4 Trueborn, 2 splinter cannons, 2 shard carbines 78points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

10 Wyches, shardnet and impaler,10 haywire gernades, Hekatrix, venomblade 145points
Raider, flicker field 70points

10 Wyches, shardnet and impaler, 10 haywire gernades, Hekatrix, venomblade 145points
Raider, flicker field 70points

10 Warriors, splinter cannon 100points
Raider, flicker field, splinter racks 70points

10 Warriors, splinter cannon 100points
Raider, flicker field, splinter racks 70points

Ravager, flicker field, 3 dark lances 115points

Ravager, flicker field, 3 dark lances 115points

Razorwing Jetfighter, flicker field, splinter cannon, 4 monoscythe missiles, 2 dark lances 165points

heres the new build, i am one point over, so what should i take out?

You don't have enough anti-tank weapons. 20 is minimum amount for 1850 pts imo. You should put Blasters for the trueborns or Warriors. It also allows you to take only 5 warriors. Many small targets are better than one big for a DE army.
Also special characters are very expensive and not so great most of the time. Why not to take few Haemies to give FnP to some units and an Archon with Agonizer, Shadow shield and Phantasm grenade launcher to support Incubi? with the points saved you could also field some Reavers or Scourges which are very useful units.

here we go again, by the way thanks for all the coments

Asdrubael Vect 240points
4 Incubi 88points
Venom with splinter cannon 65points

4 Trueborn, 4 blasters 108points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

Haemonculus, venom blade, liquifer gun 65points
9 Wyches, shardnet and impaler,9haywire gernades, Hekatrix, venomblade 133points
Raider, flicker field 70points

Haemonculus, venom blade, liquifer gun 65points
9 Wyches, shardnet and impaler,9haywire gernades, Hekatrix, venomblade 133points
Raider, flicker field 70points

4 Warriors, blaster 51points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

4 Warriors, blaster 51points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

4 Warriors, blaster 51points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

Ravager, flicker field, 3 dark lances 115points

Ravager, flicker field, 3 dark lances 115points

Razorwing Jetfighter, flicker field, splinter cannon, 4 monoscythe missiles, 2 dark lances 165points

Now i have 5 points left to spent

edit - do i have enough troop choices in this list?

Do not double post. Use the edit button. - Baron T

Think the minimum squad size for warriors is 5 (sorry haven't got codex to hand).

You do need to take 5 Warriors per squad.

I think you should run more Incubi. While I will always put up a disclaimer that I personally am not good with Incubi, I will pass on advice from others: either run a small 5-man squad to put some power in a small package that can win on the opponent's assault phase (but not do so well against elite units), or else run a large unit guaranteed to crush all opposition and collect the Pain Token, then ride that to victory. With Vect involved, your squad will dominate, so I would optimize for that outcome. The points can be stolen from the Wych squad, as 6-7 Wyches plus Hek are pretty good, or take off one Blasterborn, or turn the Razorwing into a Ravager. You could also run a Greanade Launcher Archon instead of Vect.

Asdrubael Vect 240points
4 Incubi 88points
Venom with splinter cannon 65points

4 Trueborn, 4 blasters 108points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

Haemonculus, venom blade 55points
9 Wyches, shardnet and impaler,9 haywire gernades, Hekatrix, venomblade 133points
Raider, flicker field 70points

Haemonculus, venom blade 55points
9 Wyches, shardnet and impaler,8 haywire gernades, Hekatrix, venomblade 131points
Raider, flicker field 70points

5 Warriors, blaster 60points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

5 Warriors, blaster 60points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

5 Warriors, blaster 60points
Venom, splinter cannon 65points

Ravager, flicker field, 3 dark lances 115points

Ravager, flicker field, 3 dark lances 115points

Razorwing Jetfighter, flicker field, splinter cannon, 4 monoscythe missiles, 2 dark lances 165points
1850 total points

ok so i made this build late last night and i think im gonna try it out, after i play it a few times i may want to add in some more blasterborn/incubi by taking vect out (by the way i love incubi)

Hey, just a quick pointer. I think on your second squad of wyches that they all need to have haywire grenades. I'm not 100% sure. but i don't think you can leave one without and the rest of the squad with. And I doubt anyone will complain if your 2 pts above 1850.

Yeah you sadly need to give everyone HWG or none.

Apart from the HWG issue, your latest list looks very solid. Two things come to mind:

- What's the reasoning behind using Vect instead of a regular PGL Archon? Basic Ago-SF-PGL loadout comes in at 135 points and, providing nades for the Incubi, would actually be a stronger assault element.
- Close combat isn't where Haemies thrive, so might as well ditch their VBs. That way the Wyches can keep their Fleet, and you can spend the savings on upgrading the Hekas some more.

Good luck! It's nice to see more mech assault DE, I really hope you do well.

Vect w/ Incubi is over kill. He fits better in a unit of Bloodbrides w/ 3 shardnets(i personally add HWG and an Agoinser to this just to ensure combat effectiveness). This ensures his own survivability by reducing the incoming wounds you have to attempt to save, as well as making it so you should win combats in their turn which is what you want so you dont as much time getting shot to hell.

lose the razorwing splinter cannon and the venomblasdes on the haemi and get them liquifire gunz.
On the HWG topic, an extra 2pts wont kill a judge