1850 Allcomers

Duke Sliscus-150
10x Warriors w/SC-100
6x Reavers w/HLx2, CCx2-196
6x Reavers w/HLx2, CCx2-196
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-184
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-184
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-184
Voidraven w/4xSF,FF-195
Voidraven w/4xSF,FF-195
Voidraven w/4xSF,FF-195
Aegis w/Comms-70

Ok, so this is what I'm thinking to start off 6th. I think DE have the best flyers for Air to Air so far, simply based on FF. No need to evade which means you can always fire at full BS. Duke will plus up warriors near Aegis then jump into one of the raiders early. And with 6th rules his transport will still be able to flatout after he embarks. Every unit but the warriors has anti armor and infantry capability.

Hopefully it works as an all comers list. The voids can hit high AV targets as well as dropping the Shatterfields on Razor/Rhino spam. They should all be on T2 with Comms and with Flyer speed getting shots all game. Wyches are still just as good against MEQs, and being able to challenge and kill a sergeant before he hits is a big plus.

The Reavers are expensive but now that they are actual toughness 4. With the new skilled rider and more potential for Nightfight they will be safer zooming around. The potential for scoring is a bonus as well. And they may be our best shot for those Relic games. Zoom in with 3+, grab it, move 6" jinking back while the rest of the army smashes into the front of your opponent

I think with the new power weapons we'll be seeing a lot more termis. My counter. Void Mines. You can use 1-2 Voidravens at 36", take 4 shots, move 18, 4 more. Whatever transport they're in should be dust by then and you can flyover at that point and drop 2 mines on their heads. And start using your missiles else ware.

My big worry is Necron Scythe spam with a detachment of guard with a Master of the Fleet/Astropath to push back my flyers and get the Necrons on. Its a concentrated list with only 13 KPs. I need to be careful with my fragile units and make sure they get their points back. I'm not completely sold on the warriors. I felt like the Aegis would be a waste and it seems a good way to get reserve manipulation. I made another list which is basically the same but with an Autarch and Pathfinders instead of the warriors and Aegis.


Autarch w/Bike,Fusion Blaster-110
Haemy w/SS,Dark Gate-85
6x Reavers w/HLx2, CCx2-196
6x Reavers w/HLx2, CCx2-196
5x Pathfinders -120
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-184
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-184
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-184
Voidraven w/4xSF,FF-195
Voidraven w/4xSF,FF-195
Voidraven w/4xSF,FF-195

Not really a big fan of alliances for DE, so I think I'd have to find a way to model the Autarch and Pathfinders as some sort of DE models. Or if I ever mixed in guard they would have to be slaves. Maybe our weaker siblings and the lesser races may ally but not this Kabal.

Couldn't find a use for a foot Autarch. Figure with the melta on a bike he can join with a Reaver squad and add more fire to opening up vehicles.. The reavers will always fire from 9" or closer. if they can safely get closer the extra 2d6 will help, if not its still S8. Pathfinders will sit back and pick off Characters/Termi's. Hopefully.

Again, this is meant to be competitive so C&C is highly encouraged! Lets start picking apart 6th.

Sorry, what is an Aegis??

Enfernux wrote:

Sorry, what is an Aegis??

Aegis Defense Line, its a piece of terrain that you can buy in the new editon to fit the fortification slot.

It confers a 4+ save with +2 added if you go to ground. Can buy additional guns and other equipment for it.

rules are pg 104 (battlefield debris), 114 for Aegis Defense Line

RJB are not scoring in Relic games so they can't take the relic. That would be awesome if they could though.

Ahh darn, just saw that. Oh well. Will have to bomb the Wyches in, thinking of switching 2 of the Wych Squads to Warriors, but I like the Wyches for anti tank now. With haywires hitting on 3s and wrecking with 3 glances, they're gonna be the workhorse against transport spam.

So after a few games. I think I'm going to mostly stick with Wyches. Warriors aren't quite aggressive enough for me. You can't really bomb them in, because they become so exposed to assault once the transport goes down. I can see larger squads with Duke working well with the new rapid fire. But I love Wyches.

Flyers are good but only if you have manipulation to bring them in, having them off the board turn 1 is enough of a loss of firepower. But if you fluff rolls or your enemy gets -1 to reserves you can be crippled. We cramming in a few games this weekend and I'm going to try a new list. After seeing how fast beasts are now I can't wait to bring the beastmasters out. I

Hellions are still amazing if not better with 3+ to hit. with 19 hellions with furious I charged 3 Annihilation Barges, wrecked 2 and dropped 1 to a hull point, If I was hitting any vehicle with AV10 rear armor they would have all wrecked.

Here's my list and then my plan with it.

Baron-105
Haemon w/Hexrifle-65
3x Wracks w/Acoth w/Hexrifle-55
20x Hellions w/Helliarch w/Agon-345
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-186
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-186
8x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Raider-186
5x Beastmasters 10 Khy, 6 RWF, Venom Blade-270
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115

Use same old tricks to get two pain tokens on Hellions. Haemon and Wracks sit back and snipe at Chars and MCs. Hellions and Beasts deploy aggressive to draw fire off Wyches. Preferably enough to keep the raiders alive. The NS on the ravagers is to take advantage of mid field armies. Crons, GK, SMs. Since alot of mid-high Str is 36" I should be able to dance out of range with premeasuring. I don't see many armies that can match this in CC. Enough attacks can drop DW, Draigowing, I think it can pick apart Wolves. What is looking scary right now is Guard/Deathwing. Vendettas/Barrage/Termis scare the crap outta me.

I feel like I'm going to need to be super aggressive with this. Any C&C welcome, especially if you've played a list like this before.