1850 list for Uk 40K GT

So i shall be attending a GT event for the first time in November. Most likley it will be 19 necrons, 20 Guard, 20 GK and my poor DE but I've never been one for super optimised lists so still wanted to take units that I like fluff wise. Any criticisms are welcome

Dark Eldar primary

HQ - Succubus with venom blade 70
Haemo with liquifier gun 60
Haemo with liquifier gun 60

Troops-
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
5 x KW, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 120
8 x wych with heka, venom blade. All with haywires, raider with nightshields, aethersails 186
8 x wych with heka, venom blade. All with haywires, raider with nightshields, aethersails 186

Heavy-
Ravager x 3 dark lances, nightshields 115
Razorwing Jetfighter with x 4 monoscythe missiles, x 2 dark lances, x 1 twin-linked splinter rifle (ha!), nightshields, flickerfield 165
Razorwing Jetfighter with x 4 monoscythe missiles, x 2 dark lances, x 1 twin-linked splinter rifle (really, again - ha!), nightshields, flickerfield 165

Eldar Secondary

HQ -
Farseer with singing spear, runes of warding, Fortune 103

Troops -
10 Guardians, EML, Warlock with Embolden, singing spear 130

Heavy -
Night Spinner 115

Fortification
Aegis with Eldar quad gun 100

Haemonculi go with wyches, and hopefully I can get the liquifiers close enough to Terminators, Paladins etc

A bit worried about my anti-tank, but I like the feel of the force so far

As a fellow Dark Eldar UK GT player. I wanna help! I'm playing down in Brighton for the qualifier even though I won't be in country to play next year. I tend to play optimized lists with some not so optimized toys and do pretty well.

I think you do have a weakness in your AT. And could optimize a few things without losing the fluff. The Succubus could afford to be either beefed up or dropped. Giving her an Agonizer/Haywires/Blast Pistol and putting her with the Wyches can do some damage. On the way in you'll have that pistol that hits on 2s, and a haywire from the squad. And 2 Agonizers can help them hunt MC's and wreck MEQ. But I do feel you could do more with the points. Dropping the Succubus you can change your Razorwings to Voidravens with 4 Shatterfields and a FF. I don't think NS are worth it on our fliers because zooming fliers will easily be able to fly in range, and ground AA is usually 48" plus anyways.

Playing with a flier in my last tourney and trying lists with 2-3. You need something to bring those points on the board. I think an Autarch is your best bet. This may be a stretch but if you changed the Farseer to an Autarch on a bike and changed to Spinner to some reavers w/HL's. He could ride with them and go tank hunting. Here is your list with a few changes.


Haemo with liquifier gun 60
Haemo with liquifier gun 60
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
8 x wych with heka, venom blade. All with haywires, raider with nightshields, aethersails 186
8 x wych with heka, venom blade. All with haywires, raider with nightshields, aethersails 186
6x Reavers w/HLx2-134
Ravager w/DLx3, NS-115
Voidraven w/4x SF Missiles, FF-195
Voidraven w/4x SF Missiles, FF-195

Eldar Secondary
Autarch on Jetbike w/Fusion Gun-110
10 Guardians, EML-100
Aegis with Eldar quad gun 100

6 Troops is nice at 1850, I haven't tried NSs on Venoms but I think it can help a lot against small arms fire. Autarch joins Reavers and goes tank hunting in the back field. The SF missiles over Mono's gives them some tank opening capability. Guardians sit back, and a Haemo can give Wyches his Token and stay back against a list where you really need the AA to fire the gun. I think you should give them both a shot, make changes every few games and see what works for you. You have 3 months or so to playtest. Let me know what you think.

Most excellent feedback. I like it when people appreciate what your building towards rather than suggest changing everything.

The night spinner was a bit of a gimmick - i've borrowed one from a friend for the last few games and its done very little. It may have a stay of execution until i play against a friend's SW that I feel may be a good challenge, but if it fails me again it wil be for the last time!

I see the point in the Autarch, but mostly the reason for the farseer is to shut down SW/Guard/GK psychic nonsense. As a competitive DE player yourself, you must be sick of Fortitude, living lightning etc, and the new shenanigans that is Divination

I do prefer Voidravens but I included the razorwings as they are a bit cheaper. I like the Voidraven's higher S weapons, and I usually run mine about the 175 mark, but I feel that 195 is a bit pricey. That 1 extra armour almost makes them immune to small arms though which Razors are not.

And yes, NS on venoms is king this edition, as most infantry can't hit you

I shall check some of your suggestions out in due course. thanks

Dark Eldar primary

Succubus with venom blade70
Haemo with liquifier gun 60
Haemo with shattershard 65
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
5 x KW with blaster, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 135
3 x wracks, venom with x2 splinter cannon, nightshields 105
8 x wych with heka, venom blade. All with haywires, raider with nightshields, aethersails 186
8 x wych with heka, venom blade. All with haywires, raider with nightshields, aethersails 186
Ravager w/DLx3, NS-115
Razorwing, x4 mono, x2 shatterfield, x 2 DL, FF 165
Razorwing, x4 mono, x2 shatterfield, x2 DL, FF 165

Eldar Secondary
Farseer, runes of warding, fortune, singing spear 103
10 Guardians, EML, warlock with singing spear, embolden 135
Wraithlord with x2 flamers, EML and wraithsword 125
Aegis with Eldar quad gun 100

I did take on what Kabalite Son was saying about the Voidraven with the shatterfield missiles, though I find they present an opportunistic shot when someone bunches up infantry next to a tank. They are cheaper on Razorwings so i'll stay with them for the time being, though like I said I prefer Voidravens due to void lances.

The Wraithlord may generate some laughs among DE players as we kill them easily 'take splinters in the face, big guy ha!' but if I can get him a cover save and get fortune off on him he is to play the 'goalkeeper' role. I use this a lot, an Ironclad in my Salamanders, a summoned greater daemon in my CSM, basically a MC or walker to protect squishy troops and hopefully make my opponent think twice about getting in my base and killing my dudes. With two flamers and a sword he should be good on the counter attack, and with the EML (i wanted to give him a bright lance but almost had a coronary when I seen how expensive it was!) he can provide ranged fire support. Farseer hopefully shuts down SW/GK psykers, and he goes on the quad gun lol, whilst Fortune-ing the wraithlord.

Forgot i could take wracks as troops with a heamo

Any good, or mega fail??

Looking good. You have the 2 home objective holders with Wracks and Guardians. I've never used a Wraithlord but he does look like a good deterrence to stop people form pushing a home objective too hard. Im not seeing the use of the Warlock TBH. If the Farseer is in the unit they're LD10 and you he's not adding much to the counter attack. And he's quite expensive and the points could be used to give the 2 Wych squads Agonizers.

And the other is still Succubus. Just points that could probably be put elsewhere to fill spots. Other than that though it looks solid.

I hear you on the Warlock, but he just gives the guardians that bit more staying power, another friendly psyker for wraithsight if the farseer dies (for wraithlord) and another S9 ap 2 12" weapon to chuck at any vehicles that make it over to my objective. I'll try him in a couple of games, but I have a feeling your right about him

And the succubus - she has never failed me yet. Theme wise it just doen't cut it for me having a bare bones Haemo as my HQ - Dark Eldar for me should have someone who can lead from the front in the thick of it. So for sentimental reasons I don't think I can drop her. At a local tournament earlier this year she killed 3 of my 4 opponents HQ's, and a most of a squad by herself, though that was with an agoniser in 5th ed. I'm not sold on a blast pistol in 6th ed to be honest with its range of 6", but if I drop the warlock she will be the first to get an agoniser. Even as it is, she kicks out a lot of wounds that people have to pass.

I like your suggestions though - and if I drop the Warlock the succubus is geting an agoniser and the Razorwings upgraded to Voidravens

I'm planning on going to the Brighton heats but umming an arring about what to do with my list. Skimming through yours I'm not sure on the nightshields but I realise that is to personal taste.

My headache is Wyches in 6th.

@Caranth I hear ya on the Succy. Kinda figured that's why she was in. The biggest thing is going to be just playing the lists.

@Sky. Went down to Brighton for the 1850 about a month ago and was literally the only DE player. Expect Wolves, Crons and Landraiders. I agree on the Wyches. Love them for anti tank but they don't have punch against Infantry. The shooting before the charge helps damage wise but I still barely win combats with 8 man squads.

Been using this list recently with 100% success so far against Guard, BA/Sisters allies, Eldar/DE allies, Wolves, Crons + Orks. The big test will be a couple of GK razor/dread spam games i have lined up though not particularly confident there as I can almost never beat that kind of army with my builds of DE

Really enjoying messing with folks psychic with RofWarding, and the Embolden Warlock has certainly proven his worth what with re-rollable psychic tests for my Farseer and making the Guardians basically need to be assaulted to be gotten rid of. The Wraithlord... is good against some stuff, but last night got mangled in 1 round of combat by Celestine when he was on full wounds. Still though, beats the crap out of any marines that come sniffing round my deployment zone and makes short work of walkers and most other MC's

@Sky Serpent - taken over all the vehicles the nightshields do add up, but i have found them invaluable, on the venoms in particular but the Ravager is always good to have them ( i always ran NS ravagers in 5th so not an adaptation for me)