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PostSubject: kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list   kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 21 2012, 11:12

his will be my list to Chosen tournament.

Its not fully Venom spam as I cant afford to field 9 venoms which was my original plan... But 5 is ok i guess.. Ive learn that my DE needs to move into shooting more so I have taken the risk to go for a shooty mechanized army.

After a few trials with my wyches as grenadiers instead of their normal role as cc unit seems to be paying off. So why not take 20 wyches with 20 haywires on a chariot of fire. I wanted to add my normal archon which comes up to 170pts but I am lacking points, and felt Malys re-deploy d3 units could give me a little more unpredictability for the tournament arena, my incubi will be also be immune to offensive physic powers. But the down side will be charging into terrain which will be a slight problem...

The tournament now host some 20+ players - current composition is

1 BT
3 BA
2 SW
3 SM
2 GK
2 IG
2 Crons
2 Demons
1 1k sons
1 DE <<< me
1 Tau

As you can see its filled with MEQ no surprise there. I kinda built this list before knowing how many players will be playing.. I kinda hope this list will be good enough.




1500 Pts - Dark Eldar Roster - Kabal of the Red Spire



HQ: Lady Malys
1 Lady Malys

Elite: Incubi
3 Incubi
1 Klaivex + Demiklaives
1 Venom + x2 Splinter Cannon + Flickerfield

Elite: Kabalite Trueborn
6 Kabalite Trueborn + Shardcarbine x5
1 Raider + Disintegrator Cannon

Elite: Kabalite Trueborn
6 Kabalite Trueborn + Shardcarbine x5
1 Raider + Disintegrator Cannon

Troops: Wyches
5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
1 Venom + x2 Splinter Cannon + Flickerfield

Troops: Wyches
5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
1 Venom + x2 Splinter Cannon + Flickerfield

Troops: Wyches
5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
1 Venom + x2 Splinter Cannon + Flickerfield

Troops: Wyches
5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
1 Venom + x2 Splinter Cannon + Flickerfield

Heavy Support: Ravager
1 Ravager + x3 darklance

Heavy Support: Ravager
1 Ravager + x3 darklance

Heavy Support: Razorwing Jetfighter
1 Razorwing Jetfighter + Flickerfield + x2 darklance


Total Roster Cost: 1497
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PostSubject: Re: kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list   kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 23 2012, 04:32

For me a list like that cries out above all else: DUKE!!!
Honestly I am not a big fan of GW premade HQs and I understand your reasons for taking Malys but this list was tailor made for the Duke

Rerolling drugs is a huge boon in a list with so many wyches. Would you like to have +3 poison shots on those shardcarbines? (at least one of the two squads) Yes please! Being able to DS all them Transports and Ravagers? Don't mind if I do!!

Djin blades not very fond of them and I have seen them kill the bearer as often as the enemy. I rather have the +2 poison weapon that is PW on a roll of 5+ that the Duke has.

If you are not giving the Razorwing any missiles why take it at all? For the same point costs Voidbomber is hardtopped, AV11, Void lance S9 AP1 and a Void Mine to boot. This is a no brainer...

Lastly Klaivex with demi klaives is costing you as much as 2 Incubi. Worst of all he is a character that can be single out in combat and easily destroyed by anyone with a AP3 PW since he has no inv saves and no token for FNP. With him out of the way you could indeed afford your 170 point Archon whom I imagine you will have equipped with PGL. Thus charging those difficult terrains is no longer an issue for the Incubi.

Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list   kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 23 2012, 12:09

immelman wrote:
For me a list like that cries out above all else: DUKE!!!
Honestly I am not a big fan of GW premade HQs and I understand your reasons for taking Malys but this list was tailor made for the Duke
I completely agree. He'll help your list a lot more.

immelman wrote:
Rerolling drugs is a huge boon in a list with so many wyches. Would you like to have +3 poison shots on those shardcarbines? (at least one of the two squads) Yes please! Being able to DS all them Transports and Ravagers? Don't mind if I do!!
It'll probably be best to have just one unit of beefed up Trueborn for him. Put the points from the other into blasterborn or reavers or something.

immelman wrote:
Djin blades not very fond of them and I have seen them kill the bearer as often as the enemy. I rather have the +2 poison weapon that is PW on a roll of 5+ that the Duke has.
Better than that, it's AP2 on a 5+ wound roll! Smile

immelman wrote:
If you are not giving the Razorwing any missiles why take it at all? For the same point costs Voidbomber is hardtopped, AV11, Void lance S9 AP1 and a Void Mine to boot. This is a no brainer...
The Razorwing comes stock with 4 missiles for its base points cost. It's a cheaper option that a Voidraven with missiles.
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PostSubject: Re: kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list   kabal of the Red Spire - 1500 Tourney list I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 24 2012, 09:58

A lot of the Ideas I kinda did taught about it at some point for instance the Void raven was an option but with 3 weeks to go to the tournament I cant afford to build/paint the thing in time... About the Duke I will consider him in my next version 2 of this list... and drop the incubi for a third trueborn unit, at the moment i had to submit the list to the organizers so its going as it is... BUT i still want your input as I think this army has a lot of potential.

I had two games yesterday night. One vs GK and another against BA

Game 1 - grey knights vs dark eldar - big guns never tire.
Result - DE won 5-2

Highlights I fired some 450+ shots in 5 turns into his paladins damn those things are tough! Playing with mobility and firepower I focus some 70% of my shots per turn to wipe his pally squads. My venoms circle around the paladins firing non stop, By turn 5 only 3 paladins were left standing. It was super tiring, Paladins got 2 wounds each meaning i technically killed the equivalent of 34 terminators in 5 turns.... INSANE! my opponent admitted his biggest mistake was putting half of his paladins in reserve... That gave me time to focus fire one squad at a time. Something I doubt he would do again vs me.

Brought back draigo and the 17 paladins and two of those walker things to the dark city.



Game 2 - blood angels vs dark eldar - big guns never tire.
Result - DE won 5-1

Highlights I concentrated taking out his two land raiders which made the bulk of his range firepower I played very aggressively flying my venoms at breakneck speed in turn 1 knowing the venoms were useless vs the pair of land raiders... By turn 2 I wreck both raiders one by my 5 men Wych squad and another via the twin ravagers whom lance it to bits... With full command of long range firepower, it was a turkey shootout mauling the marines thru concentrated fire by circling them while firing volley after volley of poison darts. His death company n memphiston could not get into charge range as the shards flew from every direction (literally), by turn 5 the marines had 5 models on the board, 2 tact marines, 1 death company, 1 memphiston with two wounds left, and the storm raven. The wyches charge a furiso dreadnaught which they down thanks to their haywire grenades. By turn 6 the BA had only a storm raven with one remaining hull point.

brought back memphiston to the dark city.


My taughts,
I felt that the Duke would sit in better in this list, in both engagements my Incubi only saw cc once which was to finish off two paladins, even then in a challange the Klaivex and the paladin sergeant was killed in the same round. I might drop the incubi once the tourney is over, but the model looks soo cool Sad
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