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PostSubject: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 25 2012, 22:13

Hey errbuddy! First battle report for me on here and man is battle chronicler confusing to me. Took me quite a bit of time to get this all done but I felt compelled to write up a report on this game just because it was such a good match.

So, a little background, last game I had with this guy I played 6 Ravagers and about 6 venoms w/warriors and another 2 venoms with trueborn, still had room for a farseer and 2 bare bones haemoncs to round out the list too. Anyway that crippled him by turn 1 and he quit. So, He came back ready for some vengeance. Our lists were as follows:

DE(me):
-20x hellions- helliarch, Power lance
-Archon- huskblade, drugs, trap, SS
-Baron
-3x Venoms w/5x Warriors and blaster each
-3x Ravagers
-4x Trueborn (on foot) 2x Dark Lances, 1x Blaster (had points to spare)
Eldar allies:
-Farseer (row, row, singing spear, spirit stones, doom, fortune, guide)
-3x Guardian Jetbikes
-Nightwing
-Warp Hunter
-7x Harlequins (2x fusion, Seer, kisses, master w/Plance)

I tweaked a list that Shadows Revenge had posted about on here, basically just added the hellions and took out some venoms. Very cool list.

Chaos:

-4x Demon princes -3 powers, power armour, tzentch, various demon weapons
-3x 10 cultists -heavy stubber, charactor
-bastion w/guad gun
-aegis w/guad gun
-heldrake -flamer
-defiler - battle cannon, hades autocannon

(I may be forgetting some stuff but that was the gist of it)

game type: long board edges
mission: 1 objective each
no night fight
drugs=start w/pain token
warlord trait: I rolled, chaos player has +1 modifier on reserve rolls
chaos got nothing useful, forgot what.
Chaos= rolled on his charts for psychic powers, 3 DPs got flames of chaos, 1 got enfeeble, 1 got chaos bolt, all rolled iron arm (got lucky), 1 got endurance. (i forgot 2 somewhere since 3 powers eachx4 =12, but they must not have come up hah).
DE got first

DE vs Chaos 2k Terrai11

We got some new Terrain we were dying to try too (this the chaos buddies kid! shes super interested in warhammer, very awesome!)

Deployment was like this:
[img]DE vs Chaos 2k Deploy10[/img]

The middle parts with the structures were parts of the building we counted as dangerous terrain. They had lava and chaosy looking things. pretty awesome.

ANYWAY got to save I will add the rest of the report later today! cheers


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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 26 2012, 11:00

Great start!

curebdc wrote:
Took me quite a bit of time to get this all done but I felt compelled to write up a report on this game just because it was such a good match.

By the look of it it looks like you are drawing out each model one at a time, rather than creating them all at the list building section. If you need any help just PM me, battle chronicler can be fickle at times.

Look forward to the next installable. When it's finished I'll link it to The Big Thread of Illustrated Battle Reports! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 26 2012, 17:02

I think the person you were playing with was being a bit "Sneaky"...

Can't have 4 DP's at the point levels you are at. Also, his rolls for powers seemed a bit coincidental...
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 26 2012, 18:21

Balisong wrote:
I think the person you were playing with was being a bit "Sneaky"...

Can't have 4 DP's at the point levels you are at. Also, his rolls for powers seemed a bit coincidental...

You can have 4 HQs at 2000 points, so where is the problem? Also you normally roll powers before deployment in front of your opponent, so loaded dice and Dark Pacts aside, I don't see those powers being anything other than coincidence. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 26 2012, 18:56

yeah I was going to say the same thing it is in fact 2k. I watched him roll them. He rolled a ton of 1's for biomancy which is iron arm... I was kinda just standing there saying "aww come on". Then another part of me was going T 5 vs 7 doesnt matter to my splinter cannon... anyway back to work on the rest of the post, I think I will PM you for a couple things, thanks man!
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 26 2012, 22:10

What is the terrain that you are using? Is it something you made yourself, or the terra clips stuff???

Very unusual lists as well, look forward to the outcome!
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 27 2012, 03:53

it is in fact terra clips! good eye. we just got it and wanted to have one huge piece of terrain, never really played a game like that before! Anyway here is the freaking report finally. so much work!

1st DE

I knew obviously that the demon princes needed to be taken out fast. Oh yeah! I play DE, poison, poison, poison! So thinking this I move my venoms up so I can see some DP's, risking getting heavily attacked, i thought its probably worth it to take out some DP's. One rav has a shot at a demon prince as well so i take it. Rest of ravs shoot at Bastion. After all the dust settles I manage to make....0 wounds. I get one glance with a rav on the bastion (bastion got 4+ cover too).... thanks to rerolls of 1's on armor saves (from tzentch mark)and being behind a 4+ cover, I get shafted. I have no idea how I didnt manage to take out at least 1 DP... Evil or Very Mad
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1st CHAOS

Chaos gods are grinning, not only did I fail to do anything, venoms are now in swoop range. Maybe he will biff i like i did right? nope, nope. he kills ALL OF MY VENOMS. Mad . Also he wipes out my walking trueborn squad with flames of chaos. Not all bad though, he failed a lot of his psychic tests and also got a wound on 2 demon princes, though he was able to cast endurance, on his warlord prince... which gives FNP, EW, and it will not die(5+ gets a wound back at end of turn). At end of turn he rolls back a wound. BALLS. Oh I lost 1 hellion from the battlecannon on the defiler (3+ cover save thanks to baron).
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Now you might ask, how the hell can you turn it around after this? It took all of my cunning, and a bit of luck. Also maybe technically I didn't.

2nd DE:

One good part about the venoms getting wiped was the warriors that lived were in a prime spot for defending the objective, and with 3 squads it would be hard to shake, also with the so close to the DP's they work great at grounding. I unload everything including casting guide on my guardian jetbikes that came in this turn. Hellions were also in a great position to unload their 40x poison shots on some poor DP. I think I even doomed one of them with the farseer too. Good stuff. Ravs shot at bastion, warlord and 1 other dp. I ended up killing 2 DP's and giving a wound on the warlord. Another GLANCE on the bastion or was it a pen but a useless one? dont remember. useless.
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2nd turn Chaos:

He moved the warlord in to try to bolt multiple ravagers, he only ended up hitting one and took off 1 lance. endurance was down at this point i believe. Helldrake moved in and tried to flame the harlequins but mega failed thanks to archon. I think just 1 harlequin died. The other DP moved 12" and then made a huge assault (something like 11") and assaulted the harlequins. This was excellent since he didnt go for the very squishy warriors on the objective. Oh helldrake swooped when he came in and took out 2 warriors also btw. Again didnt focus on the warriors! In combat it ended in a tie where both of us did nothing, he challenged archon or farseer and I denied, then rest of wounds were saved. sweet.

3rd DE:

I finally remember to move the warp hunter, staying out of sight and more toward the middle of the city. shot the 3 blasters in warrior squad at the helldrake but whiffed them all. Hellions moved in to posture at the warlord, not being able to get in to combat at this point. Put another 2 wounds on warlord DP leaving him at 1 wound. Combat with the other DP was going well, made a ton of saves from zee good old archon, and i must have done a wound on the dp.

3rd Chaos:

Helldrake flies off the table (yay!). Warlord prince gets endurance, and moves up and bolts the ravagers again (u mad bro?) and immobilizes one, but due to this he cant assault the hellions and is out of assault range against ravs or maybe he forgets. Battlecannon hits and kills a couple of hellions from defiler. He shoots his quads and kills 1 or 2 warriors. pretty uneventful turn. OH, he rolls back a wound on warlord.

4th DE

This is where it starts to get interesting again. I move my warp hunter up and im finally in range of his cultists with the quad gun, I shoot andddd it misses. sweet. but the shuriken cannon manages to kill a guy. meanwhile, I shoot and charge the warlord, somehow he manages to live and kill the baron (nnooooooooo), but it leaves him at his last wound. In the harlequin combat however, I somehow get 2 6's for wounding with archon and he fails a save so instant poof on his dp and I soul trap him getting 6 str on archon. SWEEET! Ravs shot some stuff and continued to be fail. I turbo boost my jetbikes for some insane reason, i mistakenly thought the game can end at the start of turn 5 when its actually the END. Dont know why I did this. OH! also, rolled in Nightwing! YAY! got shot down immediately, even with the 4++.
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4th Chaos

Helldrake comes back and tries again for the harlequins and swoops wiping a warrior squad. Harlequins lose another guy but thats it. sweet. Oh and defiler does a no brainer and assaults the guardian jetbikes wiping them. well there goes that plan. In combat the warlord drops though, taking with him like 5 hellions but whatever. I consolidate and head toward the city.
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5th DE

I move everything forward, warp hunter takes some shots at the defiler and immobilizes it! This is both strategically great and hilarious, since he just assaulted last turn he was facing the wrong way, so he was immobilized looking away from the board. LOL. I take more pot shots at the helldrake, this time with all blasters and a 2 lance ravager. 5 shots! no sixes... helldrake lives on.
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5th chaos

helldrake says TTYL again and leaves the battlefield. I get shot at from quad guns at the warp hunter and he loses a hullpoint. Hellions lose a guy or 2 from various shooting as well. thats about it!

we roll to see if the game goes on........ it does!

6th DE

I move everything forward again, ravs manage to destroy the bastion! oh its so satisfying too, its the 7 catastrophic result. He loses most of both squads that were inside. Warp Hunter waits by a wall and blasts the cultists at the aegis. kills 1 or 2. Hellions lose 2 guys from breaking their legs trying to move thru dangerous terrain (they missed their baron No )
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6th Chaos

Helldrake pops in to say hi again and wipes a squad of warriors. (still 1 left mind you). He focuses his fire on hellions killing about 2 (about 3 left at this point). That really is about all he has left.

ROLL TO SEE IF IT STILL GOES ON (its like 1:30 at this point, we started at 9).... IT DOES!! confused

7th DE

I move everything forward, hellions are in linebreaker, warp hunter is in linebreaker, i shoot cultists that i can see and do a big blast on them, but its not enough to wipe them. Harlequins are unfortunately too far away to do anything. Here is where I made a fatal mistake that could have won me the game, WHY DIDNT I MOVE THE WARP HUNTER MORE AND FLAME THE CULTISTS! or WHY DIDNT I MOVE RAVS INTO LINEBREAKER!? anyway maybe it was because it was late on a work night, but its these kinds of questions we will never really know answers to.

7th Chaos

He shoots all small arms at hellions and easily wipes them. Quad guns kill the warp hunter. Helldrake says smell ya later who needs linebreaker and the game ends as mysteriously as it began.
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TIE:

DE-
warlord+1, Objective +3

Chaos-
first blood+1, Objective+3

So I think its fair to say that mistakes were made on both sides, probably due to intoxication and tiredness. All in all though, one of the better warhammer games Ive ever had. So pissed that I wasted the GJB tho.


heres some more bonus pics of the terrain set up.

This one is what it looks like inside the walls, we counted the evil tree as dangerous terrain:
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This is from my deployment zone, cant see too much of the other side right?
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 27 2012, 07:51

Great come back!

I have to admit it wasn't looking good for you after turn 1. Also nice to see you got the hang of Battle Chronicler in the end. Added the report to the sticky. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 27 2012, 17:26

Mushkilla wrote:
Balisong wrote:
I think the person you were playing with was being a bit "Sneaky"...

Can't have 4 DP's at the point levels you are at. Also, his rolls for powers seemed a bit coincidental...

You can have 4 HQs at 2000 points, so where is the problem? Also you normally roll powers before deployment in front of your opponent, so loaded dice and Dark Pacts aside, I don't see those powers being anything other than coincidence. Cool

Does seem to be missing a troop choice though - only three in the chaos list!

@curebdc
Great report though, and a tough looking game. Baleflamers are a real burn for us dark eldar players who rely on cover saves so much...lucky there was only one. Probably rushed forward a bit rashly at the start, I know you want to ge the DPs before they swoop (I assume they were all flying DPs), but you've plenty of poison to ground & slay them, so no need really - especially with the DL toting trueborn! But clawed it back well, despite some poor luck with shooting.

Reavers with heat lances would have been handy in this game (although still very vulnerable to the aforementioned 'flamer of can't fail') to blow up the fortification and assault the cultists. They can turboboost to avoid the DPs and get at the chaos player's weak backline. Also I wonder if the trueborn could have brought a raider, then the harlequins & co could hijack it on turn one to give them some mobility (since the HQs slow down the harlies).
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 27 2012, 19:57

I mean its possible I didnt even notice that he had another 10 man of cultists in the bastion, I didnt really keep track of it. Hes a good friend of mine though, im sure his list was sound, was a friendly game anyway.

But yeah I think shaving off a few unnecessary things to take a raider for the harlies would have been great. I may just add that for next time. This also was a list I made pretty fast so def not optimal. I just love hellions though! I just bought 35 hellion boards too, I have the 20 models for this list converted from wyches and they look and act amazing.


Amazingly the flamers didnt mess me up too much. I used the archon and Barons 2++ many times to save them from getting flamed or blasted. Really worked like a charm. Also that 3+ cover save for the hellions made them pretty scarey. (+1 cover thanks to Baron and 4+ cover from the huge ruins in the middle).
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 27 2012, 20:40

How many of those Terra Clips kits did it take to make up your board?
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 27 2012, 22:14

Ahh I gotta ask my buddy. He bought a set for 60. I really liked them tho, It's amazing how much customization you can get out of them. Perfect for a campaign!
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 28 2012, 09:43

Very entertaing battle report suprised you were able to pull a tie with a start off like that
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 03 2013, 02:05

Nice report, looked like a blast to play
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 21 2013, 02:23

Squierboy wrote:
Also I wonder if the trueborn could have brought a raider, then the harlequins & co could hijack it on turn one to give them some mobility (since the HQs slow down the harlies).
As far I remember allies can never use transports.

A nice battle report: like you said, errors were made on both sides so a draw seems most fair.
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PostSubject: Re: DE vs Chaos 2k   DE vs Chaos 2k I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 17 2013, 22:01

Nice Battle Report, when playing with my friends DE always lost to Chaos big time so did good.
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