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Shbur
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PostSubject: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 06:38

Over the course of 2 years, I've acquired a LOT of Dark Eldar and haven't had time to get them started at all (they're still in boxes!). So, before I begin my project, I wanted to get this lovely communities' feedback on what I should build first. My methodology for minis is to completely build/paint/base a unit at a time to have a fully finished army at the end. I want to be able to play games before I'm done with everything, so, what I need help with is to decide in what order would make the quickest, competitive, ~1000+ pt list. Here's what I've got:

2 x Battle Force
1 x Succubus
1 x Lelith Hesperax
1 x Haemonculi
2 x Taloi/Cronoi
1 x Razorwing Jet Fighter
2 x Raider
1 x Ravager
1 x Venom
2 x Wyches Boxed Set
1 x Warriors Boxed Set
3 x Reaver Jet Bike Boxed Set
3 x Beast Master
1 x Scourges Boxed Set

Alternatively, if you think I have too much of something, feel free to recommend I exchange it for some other Dark Eldar! Thanks for any of your guys' help!


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Dark_Kindred
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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 06:49

That is a terrifying profile picture and you look like a brown haired version of my friend Jay who also happens to live in MN.

What version of the Battle Force do you have? Having 19 Reavers is playing hard ball for sure.
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Shbur
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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 07:44

I am Jay....just kidding!

I have the Battle force with 3 Reavers, 10 Warriors, 10 Wyches, and Raider.
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Garion
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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 16:26

I would say to start

1) 10 Warriors + raider
2) 10 Warriors + raider
3) 2 units of 5 wyches + 2 venoms (you need another one)
4) 6 reavers
5) ravager
6) 9 wyches + succubus or 8 wyches + succubus + Haemonculi . on a raider

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Shadows Revenge
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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 16:42

I posted a starters DE army Here That is very simple to get. Its a nice 1500 pt army, but can easily be scaled down to 1k. You already have half of it (2 battleforces, 2 raiders, a ravager, and you can use the succubus as an archon) so all you need is the last two ravagers.

overall its a decent list, you just have to learn a few tricks of the trade. Also it was made for 5th in mind, so I would drop the shock prows and add Phantasm Grenade Launchers to the wyches, thats about all the changes I would do.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 19:33

Thanks for the responses!

@ShadowsRevenge: I'm surprised that in your list you don't take your Wyches barebones, but rather kit them out. Most guys' I see would take no upgrades on their wyches. Care to explain? Feel free to link me again to another thread that contains some mathhammer or something of the sort.
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Dogmar
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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 22:33

I don't want to ninja you, SR, but I feel I can answer that one as well.

It's actually quite an obvious thing with the wyches. What do they do when they are bare bones? They are a mediocre assault unit with relatively high volume of low S attacks. They are extremely fragile due to practically nonexistent armorsave, but have decent staying power in CC due to invul. So they're light infantry killers and/or tarpits. Quite limited, don't you think?

Now you do have options:
HWG: in my opinion a must for wyches makes them suddenly extremely dangerous to tanks at only a slight cost increase. Now your wyches are truly something your opponent has to worry about. Once you got this you have to ask yourself the following question: Do I want them to pop a tank and then die to return fire or do I actually want them to be an effective assault unit?

Case 1: tank hunters only: small squad of 5 with just HWG in venom extra cannon - sorted.

Case 2: You want them to kill stuff! But wait, they lack staying power and a way to get rid of armor. This is where higher squad sizes and the hekatrix comes into play. The hekatrix's special weapon adds a great deal of killing power even with just a venom blade (volume of attacks) and the PGL helps the unit stay alive due to the stealth bonus when charging through cover (easy with fleet). I feel the wych weapons are meh at best, but there's definitely a point in grenades and hekatrix you see. Hope this helped.


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PostSubject: Re: Help me Decide the Order!   Help me Decide the Order! I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 10 2013, 23:58

Thanks! I was more or less asking about the Shardnet and Impalers, Razorflairs, and Hydra Gauntlets, but your response did flesh out some Wych-y purpose.
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