1750pt tournament list

Hey so this is my first post!
Tournament is no comp 1750 and is in a month

So this is what I have so far;

Hq
Baron (105)
Haemy (50)

Elites
True born x3 (2 splinter cannons)
Venom (dual cannons) (121)

True born x3 (2 splinter cannons)
Venom (dual cannons) (121)

True born x4 (4 blasters)
Venom (dual cannons) (173)

Troops
Wyches x5 (haywires)
Venom (dual cannons) (125)

Wyches x5 (haywires)
Venom (dual cannons) (125)

Wyches x5 (haywires)
Venom (dual cannons) (125)

Wracks x3
Venom (dual cannons) (95)

Wracks x3
Venom (dual cannons) (95)

Wracks x3
Venom (dual cannons) (95)

Fast attack
Beast masters x3
(9 kymeara, 4 flocks) (204)

Heavy Support
Ravager (105)

Ravager (105)

Ravager (105)

Total: 1749pts

So the plan is to throw the baron
In with the beasts, start them in the
middle front of my deployment and
Run them head long into my opponent.

Whether they are a distraction or actually
hit home, their really just to draw as much
Shooting off my venoms and ravagers as
Possible!
Any criticisms will help!
Thanks guys :p

First of, don't you need 4 beastmasters for that setup?

Otherwise, i guess it looks alright. I'm not much a fan of venom spam.

You do have a good mix of anti tank and anti infantry. The trueborn units looks good as well.

Maybe ditch one of the wrack squads to give more models in the other two
Wrack units. That way they might do something more and are nott just as vulnerable if the venom explodes,
Also less vulnerable to shooting.

I guess that would be my two cents. Where does the haemie go? Blasterborn unit?

Well 1 beast master allows you to take
5 kymeara 2 flocks and 1 fiend so I'm pretty
Sure my setup for them is ok.

The haemy gives his token to the beasts
Then gets on board any venom that has
Room for him (his job is done).
The reason for the small wracks units was
To get the 9 venoms because I'm all about
Redundancy, the wracks hopefully won't
Have to get out of the venoms unless
They're objective jumping (or their venom
Just fell apart).
Thanks tho you do have me thinking about it!

i believe you are reading the beast master entry wrong. Each beast master gets one type of beast, so for one beast master you can either have 5 kymera, 2 flocks, or 1 fiend. So one beast master gets 5 kymera, one beast master gets 4 kymera, one beast master gets two flocks, and you would need a fourth beast master for another 2 flocks

Ah thank you
I see what thrax now means!

Back to fiddling with the list.

So I drop 1 true born with a blaster (27pts)
And add 1 beast master (12) and another
Kymeara (10).

Except Khymerae are 12pts a piece

Yeh my bad either way I'm still at 1746pts

A solid build here unfortunatly you are pretty vulnrable to.....

Flyers
Annoying psychic powers

So i would....

Get rid of the 4 blaster trueborn unit. These guys are making themselves out as a massive target, just use normal spilntercannon born. as such the changes id make would be

Change Blasters to splintercannons - 52 pts
Remove 1 venom with wracks - 95pts

that gives you..... 146 extra points so 151 left in total

Take Aegis and Quad gun 100pts
Spend the remaining 51 points on my kymera and beastmasters

The anti psyker? well you're just gunna have to live without it unless your willing to use eldar allies.

I could add friendly space pixies
allies (as ive got about 8k of them)
but I wanted to keep it as pure evil
space pixies. But was thinking of adding
Eldrad with 5 pathfinders behind a quad
Gun defense line but at 430 points as a
detachment :/

I'm not worried about psychic defense
because my style of psychic defense is
22 splinter cannons..

I realise that my weakness is flyers, the
Problem however is that there isn't a
Solution to deal with 3 hell drakes or
The necron circus yet. Our flyers don't match
Theirs and a single quad gun won't cut it.

I know people entering the tournament
With both those lists and was thinking
About taking the uber quad gun dragon
Exarch but its just not visable in 1750
Just for AA.
Thanks tho

As a DE player i think your best weapon against flyers is mobility.

if you meet CronAir, it's a bit harder. but gunline DE gets shot up quite easily so the static aegis isn't always that great. just keep in mind that your best weapon to begin with against armies is a ton of shots and speed.

yeah, if the psyker gets too much in the way kill him that's what i would do without any allies of Eldar

Just Another Fiend wrote:

The haemy gives his token to the beasts Then gets on board any venom that has Room for him (his job is done).

Just remember that the Beasts themselves do not have Power from Pain and do no benefit from Pain Tokens. Only the Beastmasters gain the benefits.

Yea the token is really for the baron,
After the unit walks over its first unit it
Should have furious charge giving
The baron 5 attacks at S7 on the charge...
Hitting Rear armour on vehicles that's pretty rude.

Just Another Fiend wrote:

I could add friendly space pixies
allies (as ive got about 8k of them)
but I wanted to keep it as pure evil
space pixies. But was thinking of adding
Eldrad with 5 pathfinders behind a quad
Gun defense line but at 430 points as a
detachment :/

I'm not worried about psychic defense
because my style of psychic defense is
22 splinter cannons..

I realise that my weakness is flyers, the
Problem however is that there isn't a
Solution to deal with 3 hell drakes or
The necron circus yet. Our flyers don't match
Theirs and a single quad gun won't cut it.

I know people entering the tournament
With both those lists and was thinking
About taking the uber quad gun dragon
Exarch but its just not visable in 1750
Just for AA.
Thanks tho

you wont see 3 heldrakes really. If you do if you go first there a good chance youll wipe them out before they get to come on.

The quad gun sad to say is essential. If you want to do well at a tournament you must be able to kill necron night sythes. if you cant theyll go second and you by default just can't win the game. and what do you lose?

2 splinter cannons do 4 wounds a turn, if a quad gun is used instead you wound 3 times a turn. Its not a bad trade. With a aegis you can also put your splinter cannon trueborn on the ground. You know food for thought

I kinda disagree with saying that the blaster born are too big of a target. Ya on paper you'd think so, but with all of those venoms even good players are going to start having problems remembering which ones have which. At that point im sure most people, like myself, just starting worying more about which ones have scoring units in them. This means that until blaster born open up on some one they're probably going to be under the radar. When I do blaster born I actually try to keep the venom more backfield for dealing with deep striking suits, or move them up to take on wraiths rushing up the field or any other vehicle.