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Gamur_Tagz
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PostSubject: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 28 2013, 08:43

All the stuff I have:

Archon
Haemonculus
Lelith

5 Incubi
10 Wracks

40 Kabalite warriors
10 Wyches

10 Scourge
9 Reavers

Razorwing/Voidraven
2 Ravagers
Cronos

3 Raiders
3 Venoms

If you guys can help that would be great, if not that is fine also (I guess)
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PostSubject: Re: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 28 2013, 09:22

HQ
Haemonculus

Troops
10 warriors w/1 Cannon
Raider DL Splinter Racks
10 warriors w/1 Cannon
Raider DL Splinter Racks
10 warriors w/1 Cannon
Raider DL Splinter Racks
3 Wracks
Venom 2 Cannons
3 Wracks
Venom 2 Cannons

Heavy
Ravager 3DL
Ravager 3DL


This puts you at 960 you can add some night shields or a few blasters with your extra 40pts. With the Raiders and Ravagers you can switch some of them to disses if you want. Also you could take out one Ravager and add another 3 wrack venom squad.
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It appears as if you have many units that can work well. What do your typical lists look like? And what regularly beats you?
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PostSubject: Re: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 28 2013, 21:06

my typical 1500pt list looks like this

Archon- HWG, PSG, Venom Blade, Shadow field: 125pts

Elites

4 Incubi: 88pts

Troops

10 Kabalites- Dark Lance: 115pts
10 Kabalites- Splinter Cannon: 100pts
10 Kabalites- Splinter Cannon: 100pts
5 Wyches- HWG: 60pts
5 Wyches- HWG: 60pts

Transports

Raider- FF, NS, Splinter Racks: 90pts
Raider- FF, NS, Splinter Racks: 90pts
Venom- Extra Splinter Cannon: 65pts
Venom- Extra Splinter Cannon: 65pts
Venom- Extra Splinter Cannon: 65pts

Fast Attack

6 Reaver Jetbikes- 2 Heatlances: 156pts

Heavy Support

Cronos Parasite Engine- Spirit Vortex: 100pts
Ravager- NS: 115pts
Ravager- NS: 115pts


The people I play the most are mechdar and IG
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PostSubject: Re: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 29 2013, 19:21

Your list looks pretty good. Mechdar and IG are pretty hard matchups. Night shield on your venoms is the only big suggestion I could offer, as well as losing flickerfield on the raiders. Your Cronos is also fairly slow compared to the rest of your army. While gun boats are great, against mech armies, their need to get in close range hurts.

Against both, its about knowing when to move 12" and shoot, and when to turbo forward and threaten his front line with assault.
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PostSubject: Re: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2013, 08:23

most times I just move 12 and shoot, but I am questioning just boosting everything except like the ravagers and that type of role at them to see what happens because they can't blow them all up right?
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PostSubject: Re: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2013, 19:25

Try out this list
Archon SF VB HB GPA (going against they toughest units)
3 Incubi klaivex demiklaives
Venom FF NS 2x SC

Succubus HWG Agoniser(tarpiting or tank hunting)
8 HwG wyches hekatrix w/VB
Raider FF NS DL

10 warriors SC(anti infantry)
Raider FF NS SR DC

10 warriors SC(anti infantry)
Raider FF NS SR DC

5 warriors(anti infantry)
Venom FF NS 2x SC

5 warriors(anti infantry)
Venom FF NS 2x SC

5 scourges (tank hunting and if possible DS)
2x HWB

5 scourges tank hunting and if possible DS)
2x HWB

5 reavers and champion VB(harrassment and tank hunting)
2 x HL

Ravager NS FF 3x DL( antitank and if possible instant deathing someone important)

Ravager NS FF 3x DL(antitank)


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Also I forgot to mention you got about 50 pts to spare on anything you like
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that list look good I will try it out next time I play
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Ohh btw that's a 2k pts
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PostSubject: Re: If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list?   If I was to write down all the stuff I have could you guys make me an effective list? I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 02 2013, 14:57

Other people can't give you a "good" list for you, only discourage bad ones, and help you avoid bad units, combos and load-outs. The most important element in your list is...You! Or more specifically, your playstyle.

Are you a cautious player who values every model, and plays defensively? In which case, go heavy on the long-range guns, agile sniper jetbikes, units with better saves etc, in which case buying them cool toys to play with makes sense.

Or are you a headstrong, daring player who plays the odds and surges forward into the fray, happy to see your models take the hits, as you only have the endgame in mind? If so, plenty of barebones suicide squads, Haywire wyches, combat-orientated units, and keep upgrades to a minimum to afford more units.

The big names on this site who do great (and successful!) battle reports use different lists from each other, often wildly so (unlike poor old Tyranids, only one viable build at the moment!)

The trick at this point is to start analysing your own mentality and playstyle, and decide what sort of player you are; the choices of army list will then start to become obvious to you.
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Commander Sasha is right... I'm a very competitive player.. So I'm very tactical but I don't like knowing what the person has in his army until he sets it up on the board or puts it on reserve. My local store had alot of grey knights csm and IG . I'm the only one who plays dark eldar so I had to find out the hard way how to play with this army on my own... I just found this site not to long ago by I been playing de for about 2 years

But for the most part I look at the weakness of the army( alot of time is the way they deploy) and as always have fun
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