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kenny3760
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PostSubject: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 13 2011, 22:03

I was mucking about on army builder throwing a few combinations together and stumbled across this list kind of by accident. What do you guys think?

Haemonculus

4 Trueborn, 4 Blasters, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

4 Trueborn, 4 Blasters, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

4 Trueborn, 4 Blasters, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons


5 Warriors, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

5 Warriors, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

5 Warriors, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

3 Wracks, Venom 2 Splinter Cannons


6 Reavers, 2 Heat Lances

6 Reavers, 2 Heat Lances

6 Reavers, 2 Heat Lances


Ravager, 3 Dark Lances

Ravager, 3 Dark Lances

Ravager, 3 Dark Lances


It packs masses of AV firepower, 9 Dark Lances, 12 Blasters, 6 Heat lances. Has 7 venoms for 84 poison shots with 15 splinter rifles to back them up.
4 small troop choices are probably it's biggest downfall, but I think I'd be looking to table people with this list.
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 13 2011, 22:14

IMHO you could replace Warriors with Wracks. I mean Reavers, Venoms... killing infantry at range should not be big problem. Staying alive with troops - this would be problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 13 2011, 22:57

That it would be better as and 1850 list so as to get some FF on those Ravs, Blasters into the warrior units and a Liquifier Gun for the Haemie
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 13 2011, 23:12

Okay in KP, but the "Venom's for troops" lists make me nervous.

In an objective game all someone has to do is kill 5 Venom's and your ability to take and hold is basically nothing. Will you kill stuff? Yeah, but I think a smart opponent will blast your troops choices out and just focus on keeping a squad of their own to get an objective.
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 14 2011, 10:03

Good replies there.

yeah wracks for warriors is a viable idea and then I could get FF for the ravagers depending on the size of wrack units.

I was working on a 1750 list as it's a common tournament size list here, I don't know anybody who plays 1850 in the UK. But yeah more points would help toughen and strengthen it up.

Tend to agree with objectives issues, but I really do think if I was using this list I would be trying to table opponents on most occasions. I have not found raiders to be any more reliable troop transports, it's a weakness of the list, fragile transports

Not a list I'm planning but it gave me some food for thought on how I could improve my tournament list.
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 14 2011, 14:29

How about swapping one of the Blasterborn squads for a 3-man Trueborn unit with 2 DLs? Dropping them in cover with FnP sure sounds nice.
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 14 2011, 23:08

kenny3760 wrote:
Good replies there.

yeah wracks for warriors is a viable idea and then I could get FF for the ravagers depending on the size of wrack units.

I was working on a 1750 list as it's a common tournament size list here, I don't know anybody who plays 1850 in the UK. But yeah more points would help toughen and strengthen it up.

Tend to agree with objectives issues, but I really do think if I was using this list I would be trying to table opponents on most occasions. I have not found raiders to be any more reliable troop transports, it's a weakness of the list, fragile transports

Not a list I'm planning but it gave me some food for thought on how I could improve my tournament list.

Venoms, if anything, are tougher to kill due to having a built in save and a smaller profile. My point (if you were referring to my comment) is that five guys taking S3 hits will lose two on (rough) average and then all it takes is a thrown rock to see them run off, if they don't flee from taking the morale check from their vehicle blowing them up.
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PostSubject: Re: Optimal 1750 list   Optimal 1750 list I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 15 2011, 01:41

kenny3760 wrote:
Good replies there.

yeah wracks for warriors is a viable idea and then I could get FF for the ravagers depending on the size of wrack units.

I was working on a 1750 list as it's a common tournament size list here, I don't know anybody who plays 1850 in the UK. But yeah more points would help toughen and strengthen it up.

Tend to agree with objectives issues, but I really do think if I was using this list I would be trying to table opponents on most occasions. I have not found raiders to be any more reliable troop transports, it's a weakness of the list, fragile transports

Not a list I'm planning but it gave me some food for thought on how I could improve my tournament list.
Ahhh, cross the pond we play 1750-1850 of tournaments generally that's why i used it as an option.
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