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PostSubject: 7th Ed Jinking   7th Ed Jinking I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 13 2014, 00:34

I have my first game of 7th tomorrow and was (re)acquainting myself with the rules. And I get to Jink...

"If the unit Jinks, all models in the unit with this special rule gain a 4+ cover save until the start of their next Movement phase, but they can only fire Snap Shots until the end of their next turn."

Now, I know a lot (everyone?) read it as that only the model with the rule has to fire snap shots, but it's actually worded in such a way that it has two meanings. A problem with the ambiguous nature of the English language.
The first is obviously the way most read it, and the way I, being a DE player, would prefer to play it: that the advantages and disadvantages apply to the model(s) with the rule.
The other is what I expect was the intention: that the advantages and disadvantages apply to all models in the unit with the rule.

My opponent tomorrow is a necron player, so it's not likely to be a cause of contention given his vehicles are also skimmers, but I'm a stickler for accurate rules interpretation.
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PostSubject: Re: 7th Ed Jinking   7th Ed Jinking I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 13 2014, 04:19

I believe that the use of "they" rather than "it" [can only fire Snap Shots] precludes the sentence referring to the unit.

I would have a hard time convincing myself that the second interpretation you've come up with is correct, regardless of advantage or disadvantage.
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PostSubject: Re: 7th Ed Jinking   7th Ed Jinking I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 13 2014, 05:37

I agree with the above, it's only the units that can Jink (unit type:Skimmer) in the first place are then effected. Warriors can't Jink (as they are Infantry and even when inside a transport that is a skimmer.....they are still Infantry) so are not affected. Raiders can Jink, so are affected.
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PostSubject: Re: 7th Ed Jinking   7th Ed Jinking I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 13 2014, 11:51

MyNameDidntFit wrote:
I believe that the use of "they" rather than "it" [can only fire Snap Shots] precludes the sentence referring to the unit.
I had read it as "they" merely being proper use of English after having referred to models (a collection of singular bodies, as opposed to a single entity), but that does raise the point of why they specified models, rather than simply stating "it" gains the benefits and handicaps.

I'm convinced. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: 7th Ed Jinking   7th Ed Jinking I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 13 2014, 12:42

The use of "they" refers to all the models in the unit, in this case, one raider. It's worded as such because it also covers bikes/jetbikes etc, which have multiple models in the unit.
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PostSubject: Re: 7th Ed Jinking   7th Ed Jinking I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 13 2014, 17:32

The jink affects only models with jink, and the snapshooting thing is directly connected to this in one sentence, meaning it also affects only the models with Jink.

Second - the transport and transported unit are not one unit.
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