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PostSubject: My 1st list - any tips welcome   My 1st list - any tips welcome I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 05 2015, 02:34

Hi all,

This is my 1st list with the models I currently have, that could change after Xmas of course.

+++ Dark Eldar (1842pts) +++

++ Dark Eldar: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Drazhar, Master of Blades [Demiklaives, Executioner's Armour]

+ Elites +

Incubi [Incubus Warsuit]
9x Incubi [9x Klaive]
Klaivex [Demiklaives]
Raider [Disintegrator cannon, Enhanced Aethersails]

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [Kabalite Armour]
4x Kabalite Warrior [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Splinter Rifle]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster, Close Combat Weapon]
Sybarite [Close Combat Weapon, Haywire Grenades, Splinter Rifle]
Venom [Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors [Kabalite Armour]
4x Kabalite Warrior [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Splinter Rifle]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster, Close Combat Weapon]
Sybarite [Close Combat Weapon, Haywire Grenades, Splinter Rifle]
Venom [Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors [Kabalite Armour]
4x Kabalite Warrior [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Splinter Rifle]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster, Close Combat Weapon]
Sybarite [Close Combat Weapon, Haywire Grenades, Splinter Rifle]
Venom [Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors [Kabalite Armour]
4x Kabalite Warrior [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Splinter Rifle]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster, Close Combat Weapon]
Sybarite [Close Combat Weapon, Haywire Grenades, Splinter Rifle]
Venom [Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors [Kabalite Armour]
4x Kabalite Warrior [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Splinter Rifle]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster, Close Combat Weapon]
Sybarite [Close Combat Weapon, Haywire Grenades, Splinter Rifle]
Venom [Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon]

+ Fast Attack +

Razorwing Jetfighter [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle]

Reavers [3x Cluster caltrops, Wychsuit]
9x Reaver [9x Bladevanes, 9x Close combat weapon, 9x Splinter pistol]
9x Reaver jetbike [9x Splinter Rifle]
Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models) [Bladevanes, Close combat weapon]
Reaver jetbike [Blaster]
Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models) [Bladevanes, Close combat weapon]
Reaver jetbike [Blaster]
Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models) [Bladevanes, Close combat weapon]
Reaver jetbike [Blaster]

Scourges [Ghostplate armour, Plasma Grenades]
Scourge [Close combat weapon, Shardcarbine]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Close combat weapon, Haywire blaster]

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance]

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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list - any tips welcome   My 1st list - any tips welcome I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 05 2015, 16:22

You've got a pretty decent starting list here. The only absolute "must change" thing for me is the Demiklaives on the Klaivex, it's overpriced to start and in such a big squad you don't need the extra attacks. I'd swap it for nightshields on the Incubi Raider, you've got a lot of points riding in that boat so the 3+ jink will definitely come in handy.

Digging into the list a little deeper, I'm not sure the Sybarites and Haywires are necessary for the warriors, it's 15 wasted points every time they don't shoot a vehicle (but maybe you see lots of vehicles and they've been working great for you). I'd also probably spilt up the incubi into 2 or 3 smaller squads (when I take incubi I use squads or 3, 3, and 4 with an Autach). Drazhar and incubi are great for wiping out non-CC units (scatterbikes/marine squads/etc.) but aren't really tough enough to go toe-to-toe with the CC specialists in other armies (mainly because they have no invuls) and T3 3+ saves will get shot down pretty easily if they get caught in the open. Drazhar himself is also fairly overpriced, but if you want to keep him it's not the worst thing in the world. Assuming you want to keep him I'd split the incubi into a 3 man with Drazhar and a 6 man with Klaivex, and drop the sybarites to pay for a 2nd raider with sails and shields. They're still big enough to murder any 5-10 man squad, but can hit more targets and your opponent has to take out twice as many raiders to leave them stranded.

I don't use reavers enough to comment on them for sure, but to me the big squad looks too expensive for what it does.
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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list - any tips welcome   My 1st list - any tips welcome I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 05 2015, 16:42

Hello and welcome

What are your intentions with the units? Deepstrikers? Reserves? What happens if you don't go first and it's not Nightfighting, etc

Ravagers usually work better in pairs or triplicate as they then threaten many different targets (tanks, monstrous creatures, special characters, etc)

What armies do you intent/usually fight against?

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