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PostSubject: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 20 2012, 00:29

Lelith
haemy with Liquifier
3x Wracks
Venonm SC
330

Warriors x 10
SC
Raider
NS and SR
180

Ravager with NS
115

Wyches x7
hekatrix with Agonizer
Haemy with Liquifier.
HWG
Raider
+ 1 upgrade or extra wych.
234

Scourges x5
2x Haywire blaster
130

Scourges x5
2x Haywire Blaster
130

Wyches x9
Hekatrix with agoniser
1x special weapons
Raider
190

Blasterborne in venom
180

1,498 points

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 15:59

Replace 2nd scourge squad and blasterborne with an extra ravager and razorwing. this takes me to 1458. So some points for upgrades Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 17:05

I would probably put the two scourges squads together, because then they will give kill points away less easy. Also just two haywire blasters are usually not enough to wreck tanks in a single turn.

I also don't really see the point of the Haemie with the three wracks... if they all had liquifiers then they could pose a threat, but so far this unit does not seem strong enough to do any damage.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 17:11

Cheap paib tokebs for lelith givib her fc seems a good idea but i agree its an "iffy" unit. drppped scourges for a ravager :p.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 17:11

I'd take out Lelith or the Blasterborn and buy another Ravager. Then I'd add more Haemies to the Wrack unit and put them in a Raider with mor Liquifiers.

It looks like a fun list, but it doesn't seem to be focussed on any one thing.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 18:20

It isnt focused at all :L but at the same time im tryin to avoid a spam list just because id rather try and field fin units instead of spam. what about droppin lelith addib an archon and stickib the squad in a raider with more wracks. get 2 liquifiers and a nice nasty cc archon ?.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 19:17

There are a lot of misconceptions about spam. I feel like the word "spam" is becoming the new "comp" or "WAAC" the way I see it brandished about all the time. Spam is anti fun man, spam is not cool, spam is so broken etc.

There is nothing wrong with fielding multiple of the same unit, it's called redundancy and it's one of the fundamental concept to being a successful 40k general. "Spam" isn't always optimal either. For example I run three units of 9 reavers because it's fun, not because it's more effective, in fact it would be far more effective for me to run two units of 9 reavers and free up extra points for other stuff.

You can say you want to "run fun units", but it won't be fun when you get beaten repeatedly, not because you didn't "spam" units but because your list had no sense of purpose or goal. I see a bunch of individual units, not an army. For an army to be effective you need your units to work together.

Rather than thinking of whether or not an individual unit is fun or not, start trying to work out what "style" of play you find fun and how to make a list that fulfils that playstyle.

Hope that helps. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 24 2012, 19:22

Yes it does and I've read your battle reports and i love your reaver "spam". I guess if anything i don't want a venom spam list. i'm more into doubling up units. so ilk be changing to two ravagers and 2 wych boats with haemys and fill out from there.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 25 2012, 02:01

moon1n1te wrote:
Yea it dors and iv read ur battle reports and i love your reaver "spam". I guess if anything i dont wanna venom spam list. im more into doubling up units. so ilk be changing to two ravagers and 2 wych boats with haemys and fill out from there.

If you like the doubling up idea you might like to peruse this list to get some ideas. This is one I posted a week or so ago as a more 'competitive' list than the current one I'm building towards for fun.


Haemonculus w/LFG, VB - 65pts (Warlord)
Haemonculus w/SS - 65pts

8 Wyches w/HWG, Hekatrix w/Agon. Raider w/DL - 186pts
8 Wyches w/HWG, Hekatrix w/Agon. Raider w/DL - 186pts

5 Warriors w/B. Venom w/2xSC, NS - 135pts
5 Warriors w/B. Venom w/2xSC, NS - 135pts

9 Reavers w/3xHL, Champ w/VB - 249pts
9 Reavers w/3xHL, Champ w/VB - 249pts

Ravager w/NS, 3xDL - 115pts
Ravager w/NS, 3xDL - 115pts

= 1,500pts exactly
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 25 2012, 12:39

That is a nice list myt work towards something similiar. if i use my old style raider as a venom i just need a bunch of reavers but i have some old eldar jetbikes i could convert aswell.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 25 2012, 14:20

moon1n1te wrote:
That is a nice list myt work towards something similiar. if i use my old style raider as a venom i just need a bunch of reavers but i have some old eldar jetbikes i could convert aswell.

Nice, they could look pretty sweet. The other list I'm working towards is more of a fun one including the Baron and a Jetbike Farseer with a Jetbike squadron as allies so I might make the Eldar Jetbikes a bit more 'spiky' to fit with their new DE friends. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List   1500 List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 25 2012, 15:01

Sounds awesome man, I'd love to do some corrupted craftworld fools as allies at some point Razz aswell as some corsairs at some point Smile. Thnaks for all the advice guys
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