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PostSubject: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 03:46

Havent had much luck with critiques on my lists, not sure if its they are so bad, they are beyond saving or what. I would appreciate help though. Stipulations are only 1 HQ 1 ELITE 6 TROOPS 1 FAST 1 HEAVY SUPPORT only 1 flyer per list as well

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Haemy with LG

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4 man blasterborn in a venom

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5 man warrior venom
5 man warrior venom
5 man warrior venom
8 man wrack squad with 1 LG (haemy is with this squad in a raider)

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6 man reaver with 2 caltrops and 2 blasters

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1 ravager

I went with the wracks as they start with FNP and FC. Not sure about this though. Also, due to budget i am maxed out on venoms, I only have 4. Should i bring wyches for CC? I just never get them where they need to go. Critique away please

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 05:40

I wonder if it is wise to give RBJ's both caltrops and blasters, yet Your quite low on AT.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 07:31

well unfortunately there is only 1 available slot for heavy, and 1 elite. I dont have enough venoms to field anything else in venoms. The only other option is another raider. If I get rid of a venom, thats only saving 5 points for 1 lance shot. If i get rid of 1 or both caltrops, thats a max of 40 points.... where would the recommendation of allotment go too??? I have played Tau twice with this list, wiped them off the board once, and the other they conceded. However, this could largely be due, to this was a previous 3rd edition tau player. He just started playing Tau again due to the codex update. So, inexperience on the oppenents side leaves me wondering how effective this would be against SM, necrons, or any SM lists. Like i said, the stipulations on what we can bring really cramp our style. Sooo what are some alternatives? trade some warriors for haywired wyches? this list HAS TO BE 1000 or less. so 5 warriors are 45 points a squad, haywired wyches are 60, i would need to rid 15 points per squad replaced. that means, 1 or both liquifiers gone from the wrack and haemy squad. replaced with a venom blade maybe? that would leave me 5 under i guess. thoughts?

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 10:27

Looks like there is very little space for any possibilities Smile It will depent largely on Your opponents' armies and the opponents themselves.
However, this list is nonetheless very flexible no matter the enemy Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 10:34

Will you be playing on 4x6 or 4x4?

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 16:28

i want to say a 4X6 but i am not 100% on that.

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 16:40

Holly crap. 1000k That will take forever Razz

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 16:48

MongooseDog wrote:
Holly crap. 1000k That will take forever Razz

...omg I didnt see that until you said it.

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeMon May 27 2013, 16:57

lol 1k my bad

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeTue May 28 2013, 05:09

Working with that venom count I say go wyches with hwg, splinterborn with hwg instead of blasters and add NS to that unit.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeTue May 28 2013, 07:20

OK, keeping in mind my opponents can only have 1 heavy. Should i replace all warriors with wyches? that would mess up my points a little, 45 points for warriors 60 for haywired wyches. i would have to drop something. I aboslutely HAVE to be at 1k. not 1 pt over

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeTue May 28 2013, 07:44

O.o, not ONE point! over or under? not even half a point???????? and 1000k points.... I agree with mongoose, that'll take a while, bring ever hq and 20 squads of all our stuff in that! Razz


but, I like the list, heavies.... heavy support or APOCALYPSE HEAVY
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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeTue May 28 2013, 17:31

Wyches will compensate for AT very well, IF you face Mech, if not cool. Lose all 6 blasters and 1 trueborn = 102 pts. Wyches upgrades, 2 splinter cannons, night shields and hwg on splinterborn leaves 21 pts. You could max the wracks or even skimp a little on them to max the bikes which seems the most powerful option, although I don't use reavers since I already own a bike army.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeTue May 28 2013, 18:07

Lord_Alino wrote:
O.o, not ONE point! over or under? not even half a point???????? and 1000k points.... I agree with mongoose, that'll take a while, bring ever hq and 20 squads of all our stuff in that! Razz


but, I like the list, heavies.... heavy support or APOCALYPSE HEAVY

..... Did I not correct myself??? 1K


Brom I will tweak it a little and see how that looks. Thanks for the input

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 02 2013, 08:17

K, revised:

Haemy with venom blade and LG

splinterborn in venom (3 shardcarbines, 2 cannons)

2x5 warrior squads in venoms

5 wych in venom haywired

6 man wrack with LG

6 reavers, kept them the same ( blasters and caltrops)

1 ravager

I played it against tau, space marines, chaos space marines and nids. Demolished all three, except a revised nids list with a flyrant. The flyrant has completely destroyed this list. I have nothing to combat it. I also have nothing to combat any flying at all. I have thought of dropping the ravager, although that takes out AT first turn, and also takes 1 shot away each turn.... It would draw lots of fire, and eventually go down, I don't know, please advise

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PostSubject: Re: 1000k tourney list advice please   1000k tourney list advice please I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 02 2013, 10:37

FMC should be fine you can generally just use mass splinterweapons, its funny to see them fall out of the sky because of your small arms xD.

for flyers i would swap out your ravager for a void raven no missiles as really you want the S9 AP2 lances or a razorwing.
alternatively take out your reavers and have a raven strike fighter for 3 points more it counts as a fast attack and is a flyer with a heavy 10 4+ poison weapons and a twin linked darklance not only that but strafing run and vector dancer with agile this is really useful in smaller points games.

the raven strike fighter and your ravager should decimate.
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