1500pts Kabal of the Poisoned Thorn - Optimal

Well it's been a long time since I've thought about DE lists or even 40k that much (got a little disheartened and tried out some new games) but recently decided that haters gonna hate so I might as well give them something to hate.

To that end I have carried on re-tooling my old list and I'm quite happy with the results.

HQ

Haemonculus w/liquifier 60

Elite

4 Trueborn w/blasters in venom w/cannon and night shields 183

4 Trueborn w/blasters in venom w/cannon and night shields 183

Troops

3 Wracks in Venom w/cannon and nightshields 105

3 Wracks in Venom w/cannon and nightshields 105

5 Kabalite Warriors w/blaster in Venom w/cannon and night shields 135

5 Kabalite Warriors w/blaster in Raider w/shock prow, enhanced Aethersail, flicker and night shields 150

7 Wyches w/haywires hekatrix w/agoniser in Raider w/shock prow, enhanced Aethersail, flicker and night shields 204

Heavy

Ravager w/ 3 DL flicker and night shields 125

Ravager w/ 3 DL flicker and night shields 125

Ravager w/ 3 Dissies flicker and night shields 125

1500pts exactly

Expensive raiders, and dissie Ravager??? Hmmm... I'm guessing your In a foot meta, or do you not think your four venoms give you enough AI??? If you dont, I would switch the warrior raider to a venom and put lances back on the Ravager, 3 lances are better than 1 any day, and your statistically doing the same damage to MEQ in cover...

No my meta is quite vehicle heavy but it's also bangle/gk heavy which is where ap2 really shines. The raiders are there for objective games when my opponent decides to play for the draw I can potentially contest/capture objectives at long range 26-36". I believe I have plenty of AT 18 DL weapons firing at a potential 8 targets a turn and a cheeky haywire armed wych squad for up close work, whilst still having a reasonable AI output 60 poisoned shots and 9 ap2 shots. I know a lot of people don't like night shields but I love em. Thanks for the ideas though.

I like it a lot.

Only thing I'd recommend is cutting the trueborn to 3 for maximum efficiency, although I have no idea how to use the points other than getting a few more wracks or some exotic tools for the Heami.

Totally agree about the dissies for BA and GK's, I'll need to give it a try sometime.

Where do you put the Haemonculus?

I have alot of GKs as well, and find its harder to kill their tanks than their troops, but that is just me I guess ( i kinda have the darkmatter curse, but atleast not as bad as some people Ive seen)

My question is have you played with this list yet??? How has all those points spent on upgrades worked for you??? those 130 points I think could of been spent elsewhere. Heck, thats a warrior w/ blaster venom squad, and upping the liquifer to a shattershard or a venom blade... Although I do admit nightshields really work on GKs...I would of rather used those points to up those wrack squads to 5 man w/ liquifier. Then maybe put some NS around on your raiders w/ what is left.

Not played this list yet (work keeps getting in the way) but have played the parent lists (I tweak the list a little nearly every game) here is the last iteration

HQ

Haemonculus w/liquifier 60

Elite

4 Trueborn w/blasters in Venom w/2 cannons and night shields 183

4 Trueborn w/blasters in Venom w/2 cannons and night shields 183

Troops

5 Kabalite Warriors w/blaster in Raider w/Flickerfield, Night Shields, Shock Prow and enhanched Aethersails 150

5 Kabalite Warriors w/blaster in Raider w/Flickerfield, Night Shields, Shock Prow and enhanched Aethersails 150

5 Kabalite Warriors w/blaster in Venom w/2 cannons and Night Shields 135

3 Wracks in Venom w/2 cannons and Night Shields 105

3 Wracks in Venom w/2 cannons and Night Shields 105

Heavy

Ravager w/Flicker and Night Shields 125

Ravager w/Flicker and Night Shields 125

Razorwing w/ Dissies, cannon, Flicker and Night Shields 175

Total 1496


Not as optimised but still with NS (to be fair had them in every list I've used) my record is in my sig. Last game I didn't win I tied due to an opponent who holed up in a building with his entire army and played for the draw (after which I added the shock prows).