1000 pt newbie list. (yes, another one)

I'm going out to get my first set of DE next week (I sold my car finally! Wooo!) and have made various lists, essentially lists that build upon one another point wise. That said, the foundation is important, and here is the start of my three lists (other is 1500, then 1850)

You may ask why I'm taking the Archon. Well, 1. I like the unit, and 2. I'm both giving a story to my army, and having the Archon's model unique. Going to get both a Lhamaean and Ssylth, cut the torso and up part of the Lhamaean off, the bottom half of the Ssylth off, and essentially make a Dark Eldar Gorgon.

1000 pts

HQ
Archon w/ Agoniser, Shadow Field. 110 pts

Haem w/ Liquifier. 60 pts

Elite
4x Trueborn w/ 4x blasters. 108

Troops
9x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 140 pts
9x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 140 pts

Transport
Raider w/ flicker field (Archon and one Wych Squad) 70pts
Raider w/ flicker field (Haem and one Wych Squad) 70 pts

Venom w/ cannon (trueborn) 65 pts

Heavy Support
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts


Updating from here is quite simple. More wyches, I don't like wracks but was going to put a squad in for their liquifiers, Inucbi for the Archon (as well as a venom), and a third ravager, maybe a squad of warriors for more support (was also toying with having the archon flat out range based, and throwing it in a dakkavenom)

Want to throw in some scourges somewhere, just because I love those gorgeous models, and will have three reavers as well (battleforce). Though don't see why I would ever use them!

Looks good to me. I'd drop a Trueborn and a Wych or two to give the Wyches Haywire Grenades and maybe a present for the Archon.

I think I'd look at losing one of the Wych squads and it's Raider and go for some Wracks in a Venom to add some supporting fire, you could probably squeeze two of those in you tried. I think you'd struggle in objective based games otherwise.

How is this then?

HQ
Archon w/ Agoniser, Shadow Field, Combat Drugs, Soul-trap. 130 pts

Haem w/ Liquifier. 60 pts

Troops
9x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet, 9x haywire grenades and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 158 pts
9x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet, 8x haywire grenades and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 156 pts

5x Wrack w/ Liquifier (60 pts)
Transport
Raider w/ flicker field (Archon and one Wych Squad) 70pts
Raider w/ flicker field (Haem and one Wych Squad) 70 pts

Venom w/ cannon (Wracks) 65 pts

Heavy Support
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts



I like wyches, so am cautious of throwing them away.

With haywires you have to take them for the entire squad, or not at all... so your second wych squad is illegal.

At 1k your running two HQs, thats alota points put into that slot. Personally I would drop either the haemie and one of the wych squads, and replace them with two 5 man warrior blaster squads in venoms. That will give you 36 points left to put some vehicle upgrades on.

Shadows Revenge wrote:

With haywires you have to take them for the entire squad, or not at all... so your second wych squad is illegal.

At 1k your running two HQs, thats alota points put into that slot. Personally I would drop either the haemie and one of the wych squads, and replace them with two 5 man warrior blaster squads in venoms. That will give you 36 points left to put some vehicle upgrades on.

Didn't know that about the Wyches, will fix it up soon.

I really want to keep the Archon for fluff reasons, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that it's to much points for this low of a level, and I should go back to it for 1500 or 1250 pt games.

I don't think removing the Haemie would be a good idea, means I lose pain token on the Wyches, and the Wracks as a scoring unit.

I'm thinking getting rid of the Archon, fixing the Wych squad, and adding another Wrack crew on venom, or perhaps getting ride of the first Wrack venom, and having a 10 man wrack crew on a raider (saves 60 points).

That would leave me, going raider, around 60 points to work with.

I'll fix the list up later. Right now I'm at school, and my spread sheet's at home (I'm doing all this in an excel document which automaticly sums my points and $$$ costs)

How good is the Dakka venom? While I'm ok with the idea, wouldn't it be more important to get a solid troop line down in these low point values? The ravagers and haywires should deal with most tanks, shouldn't it?


EDIT: It also occurs to me, if I'm using Wracks, my Haemy character is based around making mechanical parts on people. Any ideas for making tech-looking wracks?

Ok! How is this then?

HQ
Haem w/ Liquifier. 60 pts

Troops
9x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet, 9x haywire grenades and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 148 pts
10x wych w/ 2x Hydra Gauntlet, 10x haywire grenades and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 160 pts

5x Wrack w/ Liquifier (60 pts)
5x Wrack w/ Liquifier (60 pts)

Transport
Raider w/ flicker field (Archon and one Wych Squad) 70pts
Raider w/ flicker field (Haem and one Wych Squad) 70 pts

Venom w/ cannon (Wracks) 65 pts
Venom w/ cannon (Wracks) 65 pts

Heavy Support
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts

All this @ 998, and $365

I was also considering this:

HQ
Haem w/ Liquifier. 60 pts

Elite
4x Trueborn w/ 4x blasters (108 pts)

Troops
9x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet, 9x haywire grenades and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 148 pts
10x wych w/ Hydra Gauntlet, 10x haywire grenades and Hekkatrix w/ Agoniser 160 pts

Transport
Raider w/ flicker field (Archon and one Wych Squad) 70pts
Raider w/ flicker field (Haem and one Wych Squad) 70 pts

Venom w/ cannon, (Trueborn) 65 pts

Fast Attack
3x Reaver w/ Blaster (81)

Heavy Support
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts
Ravager w/ flicker field 115 pts

All at 992 pts and $302

One last I was considering, was taking that last list, getting rid of the reavers, and putting in a Blaster Archon with the trueborn as well as either a night shield on the venom, or another weapon for the 10x wych squad.