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PostSubject: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 15 2012, 10:19

Okay, I'm fairly new to the game, and picked it up just before 6th Ed dropped, but I've been doing a lot of reading, though it's still left me relatively confused on some things, I figured I'd post my list up here for some commentary to prepare myself for when i get larger armies assembled.


HQ
Succubus
-Agoniser
-Splinter Pistol
[85p]

Elites
Incubi (5x)
+Klavex
-Murderous Assault
-Onslaught
[150p]

Troops
Kabalite Warriors (5x)
++Venom
-Nightshield
-Splinter Cannon
[120p]

Wyches (9x)
+Hekatrix
-Blast Pistol
-PGL
-Venom Blade
++Raider w/Dark Lance
-Flickerfield
-Nightshield
[210p]

Fast Attack
Reaver Jetbikes
-Heat Lance
[78p]

Total Points: 643/650

Any constructive criticism would be nice, as I'm really loving Dark Eldar and really want to maximize my possibilities with them.
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PostSubject: Re: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 15 2012, 12:06

not a lot of anti-tank to be honest, but then again you won't see many at a 650 pt game.

Also it's worth dropping the blast pistol, will most likely use it only once, so a bit of a waste of 15 pts. Trade that and 3 more points to give them all haywire grenades (and any remaining points to give it to your succy as well). That shiz screws dreadnoughts.

To fit a ravager, you can probably cut two of the klaivex powers, reaver jetbike unit (3 dies too easily, they work best in 6 or 9s, see Mushkilla's articles and BRs), and drop the flickerfield on the raider as you will be moving in at cruising speed per turn.

ravager, raider and haywire grenades, that should be enough anti-tank in such a small game. You are more likely to see dreadnoughts at this level. Others say that with 5 man warrior units, give them blasters, but really unnecessary as it requires them to be in a danger zone to use the blaster. Use this unit to do a last turn capture of objectives, whilst poking 12 shots per turn as many times from 36".

The two venoms should do for this size. Although the raider can be given a dissy to help pop a few heavy infantry dead prior to charging, at the expense of anti-tank.
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PostSubject: Re: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 15 2012, 17:43

Okay, took your advice and now I have this:

HQ
Succubus
-Agoniser
-Splinter Pistol
-Haywire Grenades
[90p]

Elites
Incubi (5x)
+Klavex
[125p]

Troops
Kabalite Warriors (5x)
++Venom
-Nightshield
-Splinter Cannon
[120p]

Wyches (9x)
-Haywire Grenades
+Hekatrix
-PGL
-Venom Blade
++Raider w/Disintegrator
-Nightshield
[203p]

Heavy Support
Ravager
-Dark Lance x3
[105p]

Total Points: 643/650

Can't currently run two venoms, too broke, but I do plan on grabbing another soon!
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PostSubject: Re: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 15 2012, 19:52

That second entry looks like a good list but with out a transport your Incubi won't see much use and will probably just end up a waste of points.
I also wouldn't bother with NS's on the Wyche Raider since its going to get in close fairly quickly anyway.

Do you have any extra models not listed here? Dropping the Incubi and running two 6-7 man Wyche squads in Raiders with Aethersails would be a great way to keep the CC element but boost your Scoring units, Vehicles and CC power.
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PostSubject: Re: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 15 2012, 20:34

Yeah I have more wyches and kabalites available, another raider, 3 more reavers, and I believe that's it right now.
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PostSubject: Re: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 15 2012, 21:42

Then the obvious answer is to give the Incubi a Raider but you don't really have the free points for that.
More Wyches or Warriors would be the better option.
If you can spare it a Blaster is always nice with Warriors but not required at this level if you can't find the points.
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PostSubject: Re: 650p DE newbie list   650p DE newbie list I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 16 2012, 06:59

Editing the list for a 750 point game; will be adding a Raider for the Incubi, and why Blasters for the Warriors? Isn't it best to run the Venom with max shots/poison?

Second look, if I drop the incubi for more wyches, I do have more points for upgrades, but are the wyches worth losing the AP2 incubi attacks?
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