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The Red King Hekatrix
Posts : 1239 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:09 | |
| https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/26/codex-drukhai-preview-assembling-your-raiding-party/
This actually sounds amazing so far. Like... actually exciting.
Bonus CP, multiple warlords? Although obviously the bonus CP is just to make up for what you'd lose making them a battalion etc. If our HQ's are actually good I'm really excited. I'm also 100% sure we won't get a cheap HQ option. It would be absolutely broken. | |
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Dalamar Sybarite
Posts : 334 Join date : 2012-02-28 Location : Chicago
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:15 | |
| damn, beat me to it. Yes Really cool. I foresee an issue with tournaments and detachment limits. | |
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yellabelly Sybarite
Posts : 344 Join date : 2017-11-16
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:16 | |
| Love it. Teenage Angst should be able to chill out a little tonight. Perhaps.
Bonus CPs for patrol detachments. 1CP to give a warlord trait to a succubus AND a haemie, whilst running an actual Archon Warlord with a trait too? I'm most definitely happy with that | |
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Crazy_Irish Sybarite
Posts : 494 Join date : 2011-05-28 Location : Huntsville, Al
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:18 | |
| - Dalamar wrote:
- damn, beat me to it. Yes Really cool. I foresee an issue with tournaments and detachment limits.
Well Tournaments adjust to new rules coming out. They will do the same here. If its a Drukhari army it can have up to 8 patrol detachments. Easy. This is exactly what I hoped yesterday. Being able to field thematically 3 leaders is so cool. Amd just like in Battlefleet Gotic the drukhari are represented by multiple smaller detachments. Love it. | |
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Caldera02 Slave
Posts : 19 Join date : 2014-12-01 Location : Austin, Tx
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:25 | |
| shiiiiiiit. If we don't get a way to get around the 3 detachment limit, this is going to suck. | |
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The Red King Hekatrix
Posts : 1239 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:28 | |
| I'm away from book. Isn't the 3 detachment limit labeled a reccomendation in the book? | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:30 | |
| Was hoping to take DE to the London GT in May but they have a rule about no duplicate detachments so Raiding Force is no use | |
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Caldera02 Slave
Posts : 19 Join date : 2014-12-01 Location : Austin, Tx
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:34 | |
| - The Red King wrote:
- I'm away from book. Isn't the 3 detachment limit labeled a reccomendation in the book?
It's a requirement for matched play. | |
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The Red King Hekatrix
Posts : 1239 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:35 | |
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Hen Tai, the tentacle guy Sybarite
Posts : 388 Join date : 2016-12-13 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:42 | |
| I see possible greatness from this article. It will be interesting to see what they do with the free agent thingy with the incubi. | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:44 | |
| This is actually very exciting. It even looks like they tried to do something cool. Of course, we all know it's impossible, but it's a pleasant thought. | |
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Rodi Sikni Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 136 Join date : 2017-12-09
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:44 | |
| I want to think that in the March global FAQs they will include some notes about it. | |
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Dalamar Sybarite
Posts : 334 Join date : 2012-02-28 Location : Chicago
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:46 | |
| I will most assuredly have to listen in to "Signals from the Frontline" Wednesday. because there are more issues than just saying Drukhari can take up to 8 patrol detachments. Right now the min point expenditure for that is 594. Now, can we still take a craftworld detachment, or an Ynnari? How about another Drukhari brigade? On the strict side if you use this rule you can only have Patrol detachments of Drukhari meaning we can never break 11 CP.
What I would like is your entire army must be Drukhari, All patrol detachments count as one detachment for for the purpose of the 3 detachment limit. | |
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PartZebra Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 142 Join date : 2017-06-28 Location : Lincolnshire
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:47 | |
| I'm super stoked for this. As I mentioned in the other thread, it's important to note that this is just an option for building your list. The article hints that there are incentives for not utilising Raiding Force.
And that stratagem is pretty cool tbh. | |
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DevilDoll Wych
Posts : 523 Join date : 2013-08-16
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:48 | |
| Really cool that 1cp stratagem is exactly what i wanted for how i imagined my raidfing party. Three sisters (conversioned) leading the Pirates of the Black Faith... Nyx (archon), Hecate (succubus) and Nemesis (hemy) the crazed worshipers of darkness now each with her own warlord trait...! Im stocked!!!! | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:48 | |
| - Dalamar wrote:
- I will most assuredly have to listen in to "Signals from the Frontline" Wednesday. because there are more issues than just saying Drukhari can take up to 8 patrol detachments. Right now the min point expenditure for that is 594. Now, can we still take a craftworld detachment, or an Ynnari? How about another Drukhari brigade? On the strict side if you use this rule you can only have Patrol detachments of Drukhari meaning we can never break 11 CP.
What I would like is your entire army must be Drukhari, All patrol detachments count as one detachment for for the purpose of the 3 detachment limit. There's nothing to suggest that you need to take an entire Drukhari army and that goes against the whole design of the game for 8e. All we need is some sort of special dispensation to break the 3 detachment limit. | |
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Burnage Incubi
Posts : 1505 Join date : 2017-09-12
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 15:59 | |
| I've been operating under the assumption that even for matched play the 3 detachment thing was a suggestion, not a hard limit. Is that not the case?
I know a lot of tournaments have strict detachment requirements, but that's basically a house rule (and hopefully they'll be flexible about us)...
Anyways - this all looks very exciting. I'm excited! | |
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Caldera02 Slave
Posts : 19 Join date : 2014-12-01 Location : Austin, Tx
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:01 | |
| Yes, the detachment limit is a hard rule just like the Half army in reserve rule and limit one use on strategems per phase.
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Ubernoob1 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 160 Join date : 2013-04-20 Location : Newport News, Virginia
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:09 | |
| I have to wonder if there is a simple and clean way to allow raiding force to work without the risk of it becoming solely a CP farm for other eldar lists. | |
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dumpeal Hekatrix
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2015-02-13 Location : Québec
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:09 | |
| I'm hyped. I hope we'll get a big point reduction on our HQ, though. Or else, it'll come very expensive to have 3-8 patrols detachment (HQ) | |
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Lord Asvaldir Hekatrix
Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:13 | |
| I really think 3 patrols will be a solid way to run DE. We can safely assume at least some of our characters will get a boost/pts reduction, and 3 characters really isn't overspending on characters considering it's only one more character than a battalion detachment. 3 characters and 3 troops will unlock 4 cps and 6 slots each for elite/fa/hs, and even 6 fliers if you really wanted to run that many. Seems like a solid deal to me. | |
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Siticus the Ancient Wych
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-09-10 Location : Riga, Latvia
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:15 | |
| Off to a good start, as I can deploy my bunch of disparate raider gangs the way I envisioned them when I first started the army - a gathering of various forces, each bringing their own approach to battle along the way.
Very excited!
Raise the sights, the city lights are calling We're hot tonight, the time is right, there's nitro in the air In the street is where we'll meet, we're warning On the beat, we won't retreat, beware! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtu20Ejv3SI | |
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Sarkesian Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 223 Join date : 2016-01-12 Location : Utah
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:23 | |
| Totally going to run a triumvirate! Nihilus the Archon, Sion the Haemonculus, and Traya the Succubus.
Question about it, I may have misread it, but only the Archon counts as the warlord? Or would they need to kill all 3 to get slay the warlord. I only had a brief look at it before I got into work. | |
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PartZebra Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 142 Join date : 2017-06-28 Location : Lincolnshire
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:25 | |
| The stratagem only works if the Archon is the Warlord, and the stratagem counts the Succubus and Haemi as warlords insofar that they get warlord traits; i.e. they don't count towards Slay the Warlord etc. | |
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Lord Asvaldir Hekatrix
Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06
| Subject: Re: Codex: Drukhai Preview – Assembling Your Raiding Party Mon Mar 26 2018, 16:27 | |
| Only the archon counts as the warlord for the purpose of killing the warlord. The succubus/heamonculus only count as a warlord for the purpose of giving each of them a warlord trait. Whether the stratagem is actually worth it or not will depend on what our traits are, but considering daemons got 6 traits per daemon faction I think it's entirely possible we'll get 6 traits each for kabal/cult/coven, and out of that many traits we'll have to have at least a few solid ones.
edit: beaten to the punch.. | |
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