TTT DE video

Any mobility options for HQ's?
Whats the relic for flayed skulls?

Can you confirm if venoms dropped by twenty?

TheBaconPope wrote:

Can you confirm if venoms dropped by twenty?

He did last page, base down 10, Splinters down 5.

TheBaconPope wrote:

Can you confirm if venoms dropped by twenty?

He already answered this:
Venoms down 10, Splinter Cannons down 5.

Stock option is thus down 15.

Any changes to my precious Grots?

Hex rifle changes? Shardnet and impaler? Loving what I’m reading so far! Very excited for this codex

tons of info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-9cjx1A2QI
BOLS deep dive

the_scotsman wrote:

Units I'm itching to know about:

Hellions: what happened to get them such rave reviews? They're so awful right now.

Cronos and/or Talos: what is the suite of buffs they saw? Damage? Durability?

Haemonculus/wrack weapons: all hideously samey in the index any new or interesting roles opening up?

hellions went down in price but are still just the same profile. I think reavers just get it done better. Which they were better.

Cronos went down 37pts. Spirit probe costs pts now...not many. Vortex down 3 pts.

Talos i talked about above.

most if not all the hemo weapons all looked the same though went down in points.

bondoid wrote:

tons of info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-9cjx1A2QI
BOLS deep dive

I'm analyzing it right now and taking notes.

Both PFP and Combat drugs stayed the same.

Its like an avalanche of leaks atm.
I guess the leaks are truely here, yay!
Had to check my calendar to make sure it wasn't an april fools.

HERO wrote:

HQs down in price?

Any special weapon changes note worthy?  For example, PGLs or Shock Prows, or anything you find exciting?

And to confirm: Voidraven Dark Sycthes are still D3 damage? lol top tier trash weapon confirmed

succy - down 22pts.

Archon up 16pts. He gained the aura and better weapon so I am ok with it. Good traits and relics too.

Hemo - down 5pts.

+1 str on huskblade is cool.
Shredder is ass 6 now and gained an ap for same cost.
Mandrakes gained -1 Ap on their weapons in addtions to going down 3 pts!
Razorflocks big change - half attacks now, +1 WS and gained -1 ap.
Macro scapels gained an add -1 ap.
PGL and shock prows mostly the same but here is something that will tickle your fancy. - Shardnets cause the opp to only roll d3 for No Escape.

yes can confirm Scythes still suck.

Now going over BoLS video and providing LIVE notes as I go through the video.


HQ choices stayed the same
archon got more expensive, huskblade went up in strength
leadership to re-roll 1s or all Kabal
stats the same

Venom blade is back, wounding on 2s
Drazhar stayed the same
Murderous assault gives now attacks twice
tormentor helm

lilth is back
no combat drugs
beignning of every round she gains a +stat (like attack), you choose
weapons stayed the same
cult of strife, 6 total attacks
blood dancer = any 6s to hit is 2 hits
only 80 points

Bad-baden-baden wrote:

Any mobility options for HQ's?
Whats the relic for flayed skulls?

No jump packs or anything I noticed.

flayed skull - 4++ if and when you fail the shadowfield for rest of game.

FrankyMcShanky wrote:

Any changes to my precious Grots?

grots went up 1 point and I think I missed something on them because I can't account for why. Maybe cause they can get 4++ now? they may have 4 wounds now but I REALLY can't qoute that.

Sarkesian wrote:

Hex rifle changes? Shardnet and impaler? Loving what I’m reading so far! Very excited for this codex

I didn't see hex rifle change no....skimmed that one.

Succubus archite glaive still bad
50 points for her, re-roll 1s for wych
4++ dodge

Urien
weapons stay the same
He just flat out takes half damage, rounding up
Prophet of flesh haemonculi
+1 strength for haemonculi units within 1
points is 90

regular haemonculi is 70 points

archon is 70 base

6 points a piece for kabal warriors
biggest change, 2 special weapons per 10, every 5 models confirmed.
Every squad of 10 can now take TWO special weapons AND 1 heavy

We are a horde army!

6 points for Kabalites is crazytown.

FrankyMcShanky wrote:

6 points for Kabalites is crazytown.  

yup and wyches went down a pt as well.

Splinters to 10
Shredders, same, but assault D6, gained AP -1
Blasters went up to 17

Wyches at 8 points
base 2 attacks
always 6++ vs. shooting
hydra gaunts stayed the same, razorflails +d3 attacks now, shardnet is now d3 instead of d6 for enemies fleeing

Trueborn and Bloodbrides confirmed out

... Watching through the video. A lot of this looks like hot garbage.

FuelDrop wrote:

... Watching through the video. A lot of this looks like hot garbage.

really? there is so much good in the book man!

I think our HQ's are going to be a big inhibitor for us. I think we're going to be seeing a good 25% of our list sunk into HQ's that just suck. No other way to put it.

wracks
havent changed statline, down 1 point
osselfactor are now cheaper

court of the archon
statwise they're the same
if have to take the archon to unlock them

mandrakes
decent attacks, -1 to hit, 5++, 16ppm

incubi
tormentor rule, pretty much the same stat wise
lethal precision, klaivex rolls a 6 = 2 hits
16ppm

both mandrakes and incubi, beastmaster and scourges are mercs and not obsession based

razorwing attacks down to 4 attacks, but now hits on 4s

grotesques, stat wise are the same, points went up by 1

reavers are now 18", advance 8", 19 ppm
heat lances are now 12 points

OK, gotta actually run Someone else take this over, I'm at 33 minutes.

I'm pretty pleased. 50pt succubus with D3 damage and full reroll aura sounds awesome. More expensive archon....eh, but duelist build with the Flayed skull trait sounds fun. I'll take one. Haemie I feel is just a buff machine at this point but I'm glad to hear he keeps his weapon list.

I'll have to know what grots got to justify going UP in cost. Damage on their weapon?