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Khayyin Slave
Posts : 7 Join date : 2015-03-01
| Subject: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Sun Apr 08 2018, 00:31 | |
| So now that a Succubus has combat drugs. Can she take Serpentin to get WS +1 (even if 1s still fail to hit) so that she would still hit on 2+ with the Glaive with RRs of 1? | |
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Kantalla Wych
Posts : 874 Join date : 2015-12-21
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Sun Apr 08 2018, 03:18 | |
| I believe that works.
With Serpentin, you would have 1+ WS.
An unmodified roll of 1 is a miss by default. Brides of Death would allow that to be rerolled.
However, an unmodified 2 is not an automatic miss, and would be modified to a 1 due to the Archite Glaive. That would be compared with the WS (1+) and would therefore be a hit.
The WS boost wouldn't help with the Blood Dancer warlord trait, as a 6+ would still be unattainable. | |
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AzraeI Wych
Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 15:54 | |
| BRB pg 175: "Toughness and Leadership characteristics can never be modified below 1" implies that other characteristics can be modified at least to a 1, 1s always fail but 1+ to hit -1 to the roll should make her hit on 2s | |
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Lord Asvaldir Hekatrix
Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 17:15 | |
| I'm not entirely sure that this works but honestly I really hope it does. +1ws is often a drug I don't have a place for, so it would be nice if there was a cult model where the ws boost would be useful. | |
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AzraeI Wych
Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 17:19 | |
| - Lord Asvaldir wrote:
- I'm not entirely sure that this works but honestly I really hope it does. +1ws is often a drug I don't have a place for, so it would be nice if there was a cult model where the ws boost would be useful.
didnt they write it in one of the community articles that you can modify everything even above 10? strangely i learnt more from these articles tahn from the brb | |
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Lord Asvaldir Hekatrix
Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 18:20 | |
| I believe so but we're talking ws here, not quite the same sort of stat. Just not positive on how having +1 ws affects a -1 to hit modifier. | |
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AzraeI Wych
Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 19:32 | |
| - Lord Asvaldir wrote:
- I believe so but we're talking ws here, not quite the same sort of stat. Just not positive on how having +1 ws affects a -1 to hit modifier.
a 2+ armor characteristic can also be modified to a 1+, 1s always fail, but a ap-1 weapon makes it a 2+ save | |
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Lord Asvaldir Hekatrix
Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 20:20 | |
| Assuming that's the case sounds like the +1 ws helps the glaive then. | |
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shadowseercB Wych
Posts : 550 Join date : 2012-10-21
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Mon Apr 09 2018, 22:16 | |
| - AzraeI wrote:
- BRB pg 175: "Toughness and Leadership characteristics can never be modified below 1"
implies that other characteristics can be modified at least to a 1, 1s always fail but 1+ to hit -1 to the roll should make her hit on 2s Thats exactly how it works. With Blood Dancer warlord trait 6+ ability, +1 from Power from Pain turn 3 (add 1 to hit rolls) causing the warlord trait to proc on 5+ with regular weapons and 6+ with an archite glaive. EDIT: I do not believe the combat drug stacks with the Blood Dancer ability because it only adds 1 to weapon skill. I believe it has to say +1 to hit like Flensing Fury. | |
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Barrywise Wych
Posts : 621 Join date : 2012-11-14 Location : Illinois
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Tue Apr 10 2018, 03:19 | |
| Also, the rolls themselves can be modified to be lower than 1, at which point, the rules say that any roll below 1 just becomes 1 | |
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Lord Asvaldir Hekatrix
Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06
| Subject: Re: Succubus + Serpentin + Glaive Tue Apr 10 2018, 03:33 | |
| - shadowseercB wrote:
- AzraeI wrote:
- BRB pg 175: "Toughness and Leadership characteristics can never be modified below 1"
implies that other characteristics can be modified at least to a 1, 1s always fail but 1+ to hit -1 to the roll should make her hit on 2s Thats exactly how it works. With Blood Dancer warlord trait 6+ ability, +1 from Power from Pain turn 3 (add 1 to hit rolls) causing the warlord trait to proc on 5+ with regular weapons and 6+ with an archite glaive.
EDIT: I do not believe the combat drug stacks with the Blood Dancer ability because it only adds 1 to weapon skill. I believe it has to say +1 to hit like Flensing Fury. Yeah it definetly doesn't help with the blood dancer trait, you need a +1 to hit modifier to get the extra hits on 5s, not +1 ws. | |
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