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Hey I decided to run my small project on blogspot. Feel free to comment. First post is focusing on blaster vs a haywire blaster.
Enjoy!
http://deadlydice.blogspot.com/

I will check it out

Even after reading your descriptions, I still have no clue what I'm looking at.

Soulless Samurai wrote:

Even after reading your descriptions, I still have no clue what I'm looking at.

Thx for feedback - these are my first steps - I will try to do better next time

kicu wrote:

Soulless Samurai wrote:

Even after reading your descriptions, I still have no clue what I'm looking at.

Thx for feedback - these are my first steps - I will try to do better next time

Well it's possible that I'm just a bit thick, so maybe see what others have to say.

Blog wrote:

the X-axis shows damage dealt (Well, theoretically 1 hwb can do even 12 dmg, but probability of it doing 7+ is ~0,5% against a Raider)
the Y-axis shows probability of doing that much dmg

so the Y axis is the probability of that amount of damage in decimal, e.g there is a 0.2 or 1/5 chance of dealing 1 wound to a raider. keep in mind these are single guns, so if there is multiple the drop-off would be steeper.

New post about Dark Lance and the Cannon. Enjoy it here!

Just read the articles. Really excited your geting into this and look forward to reading more.
Big into mathhammering myself, and I like the analysis.

I did find it a bit difficult to decipher all the data, even the graphs in the second post, where I could tel you were trying to do it make it easier. And I got where you were going in the end, that it is how much damage a single shot can do, but knowing which gun did more damage overall was difficult to tell.

The other thing I found when making the graphing functions of the mathhammer calculator was a line graph tended to "Lie" because it had a whole heap of results (like 0.5 wounds) that don't exist. As a result, I found a bar graph to be a more effective way of conveying information.

LordSplata wrote:

Just read the articles.  Really excited your geting into this and look forward to reading more.
Big into mathhammering myself, and I like the analysis.

I did find it a bit difficult to decipher all the data,  even the graphs in the second post, where I could tel you were trying to do it make it easier.  And I got where you were going in the end, that it is how much damage a single shot can do, but knowing which gun did more damage overall was difficult to tell.

The other thing I found when making the graphing functions of the mathhammer calculator was a line graph tended to "Lie" because it had a whole heap of results (like 0.5 wounds) that don't exist.  As a result, I found a bar graph to be a more effective way of conveying information.

Thx for your input I try to improve with every post. GLad to hear that it is at least a bit interesting

Meanwhile I posted a new article few hours ago. Let's check whether new Shredder and Splinter racks are an improvement when it comes to killing infantry

Enjoy!
https://deadlydice.blogspot.com/2018/04/how-to-kill-infantry-effectively.html

Good job, keep on

Shredders really are viable now! a unit of shredder scourge can reliably kill 10 GEQ, if you include morale!

wormfromhell wrote:

Shredders really are viable now! a unit of shredder scourge can reliably kill 10 GEQ, if you include morale!

Quit making me buy more Scourges.

withershadow wrote:

wormfromhell wrote:

Shredders really are viable now! a unit of shredder scourge can reliably kill 10 GEQ, if you include morale!

Quit making me buy more Scourges.

I bought an eBay lot with 30 a while back and tons of other stuff, it is tempting to run a scourge list and convert a +2" move succubus into a scourge HQ, that could be a cool theme. I might try that actually...

Very nice summary and comparison.

Would have saved me some time if I looked at this earlier. I arrived at the conclusion that I take Dissies on Raiders/Ravagers and DL/Blasters on Warriors. DL might be better against T6 and T7, but the Dissie is just more versatile. Also the variance of dmg dealt by a dissie is lower because of the 3 shots.

Is there an analysis about the variance of dmg dealt somewhere? Most of the time just the expectation is calculated. I really would like to compare the probability density functions.

Ragnos wrote:

Is there an analysis about the variance of dmg dealt somewhere? Most of the time just the expectation is calculated. I really would like to compare the probability density functions.

Hey. I assume you are still reffering to the DL vs DC post? I had a quasi-density function in my Scourge post but I got some feedback (not only here) that it is too mathematical for an average reader. Creating a graph for damage dealt as a function of T and Sv of a target would result in a  3D graph and these are not that easy to read or create. I plan on coming back to AT weaponry some time soon while comparing all of our viable options.
Thx a lot for your comment.



BTW a new articlehas arrived

kicu wrote:

Ragnos wrote:

Is there an analysis about the variance of dmg dealt somewhere? Most of the time just the expectation is calculated. I really would like to compare the probability density functions.

Hey. I assume you are still reffering to the DL vs DC post? I had a quasi-density function in my Scourge post but I got some feedback (not only here) that it is too mathematical for an average reader. Creating a graph for damage dealt as a function of T and Sv of a target would result in a  3D graph and these are not that easy to read or create. I plan on coming back to AT weaponry some time soon while comparing all of our viable options.
Thx a lot for your comment.



BTW a new articlehas arrived

generally more shots and constant damage = more reliable, less shots and variable damage = more fluctuant. so haywire is more reliable than DL, so is DC, although with DL you can get real good rolls (or really bad).

Generally the swingy stuff is better against really tough stuff like Mortarion. If you dice past their defenses, you want to do as much damage as possible. Needs a bit of luck but that’s how the game is played.

Let's talk about wyches. Obsessions, drugs and rock'n'roll!

Check it out!

New post with some info on Incubi, Grotesques and Lhamaean!

Check it out!

I still dont understand this "same point thing" . You say the point are equal and then talk about 3 grotesque vs 5 incubi ?

Hey
Lets say that a unit that costs 50pts does 2dmg on average and a unit that costs 100 pts deal 3dmg.
Then I divide this damage by the cost of the unit and then multiply it by 100. What I get is Average damage dealt for every 100pts I pay for the unit. In the example 1st unit deals 4dmg/100pts and the 2nd deals 3dmg/100pts -> the 1st unit is more effective for its cost

Ah ok i see, i think you should stop talking about X man unit then cause it make it really confusing.

A remark about the damage output : we need to take into account that we are limited to 3 lhamean at 2000 point

Quauchtemoc wrote:

Ah ok i see, i think you should stop talking about X man unit then cause it make it really confusing.

A remark about the damage output : we need to take into account that we are limited to 3 lhamean at 2000 point

Yes but only in matched play. Lhamaean party bus is so hilarious that I had to mention this possibility

Nice post. It really spells out why razor flails are good in the codex

A couple of corrections on the wyches post, a succubus can't have a shard net, only the impaler. And a roll off only happens once. The rule states if a unit fallbacks back from any models with this rule then they must roll off. So no 97% shenanigans

LordSplata wrote:

A couple of corrections on the wyches post, a succubus can't have a shard net, only the impaler.

That's incorrect. A Succubus can replace both of her weapons with a Shardnet and Impailer, or her Agoniser with just the Impailer.