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POwell0
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PostSubject: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 20:15

So my gaming groups Annual post Xmas Campaign is being written up at the moment....Scenario will be written by myself and rules by 2 friends (i like a good home made campaign).

This will be my list to start with,

HQ
Archon with splinter pistol, agoniser, combat drugs, shadowfiled, soulf trap, PGL - 155pts

TROOPS
4 x 10 wyches including hekatrix, agoniser, hydra gauntlets, haywire grenades - 640 pts
4 x Raiders with FF - 280pts

ELITES
5 Incubi - 110pts
Raider with FF - 70pts

HEAVY
2 x Ravagers with DL, FF - 230pts

Total 1495pts

I will be facing Black Templars, GK's, Eldar, Dark Angles (Ravenwing themed most likely), Salamanders, Deamons or 'Nids (undecided on this one yet) and Sisters of Battle.

Any thoughts welcome
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 20:56

Soul Trap+Agoniser? How does that make any sense?

Your list otherwise looks fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 21:04

I put a soul trap in there as a way to get the re-rolls on the agoniser (if my drugs test fails to do so) and so he can hurt enemy transports, dreads, landspeeders etc plus i had 15 pts spare and wasnt sure what to spend it on
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 22:02

Agonisers aren't poisoned weapons - the only way to get re-rolls with them is via the drug that allows re-rolling failed wound rolls. Higher strength does nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 22:22

Ah yes mis-read the entry but still as i said can hurt transports etc with S6 which is always handy
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 22:43

He has haywire grenades for that, and they're cheaper to buy and don't require him to kill an IC/MC to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 23 2011, 23:44

yeah but haywire grenades would give me 1 attack whereas a soul trap would potentially give me between 5 and 7 (depending on charges, drugs) ok i will penetrate on a 6 v AV12 instead of glance with haywires but IMHO extra attacks wins. and killing IC/MC is what an Archon does best Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 24 2011, 07:48

POwell0 wrote:
yeah but haywire grenades would give me 1 attack whereas a soul trap would potentially give me between 5 and 7 (depending on charges, drugs) ok i will penetrate on a 6 v AV12 instead of glance with haywires but IMHO extra attacks wins. and killing IC/MC is what an Archon does best Smile

to get S 7 you have to have furious charge (2 PM) - and that means, you have to kill 2 units (at least one IC/MC) before you are able to start hurting vehicles.

There are a lot of If's in your army-build
1. If Your Archon has S +1 on combat drugs
2. If your Archon has killed an IC/MC
3. If your Archon has 2 Pain tokens
4. If you roll a 6 (5 with the comat drugs +1 S) for penetrating


HWG work from the beginning.
Glancing is quite nice if you start ripping big guns from your opponents tanks or stunning the crew.
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 25 2011, 14:43

also you cant hurt a vehicle with your S10 anyway. With a special weapon, you always have to use it unless you have a 2nd special weapon, in which case you pick which to use. As the agoniser cant use your strength (as it has a special ability) and it cant hurt tanks, so the strength doesnt matter. So your archon can swing his pain whip as fast as he wants, but those tank crews are just going to stare at you Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 25 2011, 15:49

Shadows Revenge wrote:
also you cant hurt a vehicle with your S10 anyway. With a special weapon, you always have to use it unless you have a 2nd special weapon, in which case you pick which to use. As the agoniser cant use your strength (as it has a special ability) and it cant hurt tanks, so the strength doesnt matter. So your archon can swing his pain whip as fast as he wants, but those tank crews are just going to stare at you Razz

!!!
(just reread the rulebook)

So we have to put the SoulTrap/Agonizer-Combo on our black list.

Then your Archon has to get a normal power-weapon to profit from the Soul Trap
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 25 2011, 16:10

or he could just take the djinn blade in your set-up, as it is technically a special weapon that he can choose to use instead...
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PostSubject: Re: Campaign List 1500pts   Campaign List 1500pts I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 25 2011, 20:08

Well my list will be modified as i am getting the megaset for xmas so i will be changing my Archons wargear and weapons im thinking just the standard power weapon or a Husk Blade if i can afford the points after a quick re-write
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