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2wyches1raider Slave
Posts : 6 Join date : 2011-11-26 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Coven 1000p (1018) Sun Nov 27 2011, 20:19 | |
| Heya! this is my first dark eldar army just because i love the haemonculus fluff. I am mainly going to play agianst my friends tau (no hammerheads, just a piranha or two). This is what i have in mind: HQ Haemonculus, Wwp, scissor hands, 100pt (going with wrack squad 1) Troops 8x wracks, 1x acothyst, scissor hands, 125 9x wracks, 1x acothyst, scissor hands, 135 Raider 60pt Raider 6opt Fast attack 2x beastmasters 10x khymera, 144pt 2x beastmasters 10x khymera, 144pt 5x scourges, 2x dark lance , 140 Heavy support Cronos, spirit/probe vortex, 110pt Scourges will be in cover and shoot dark lance's agianst heavy units or vechiles. Beastmasters and Cronos will arrive from wwp. What do you think? | |
| | | Tanhausen Hellion
Posts : 75 Join date : 2011-11-17 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Mon Nov 28 2011, 09:24 | |
| The Beasts unit I don't know 100% how they work but... do you need 2 masters? Also, 10 doggies area HUGE footprint... if your opponent has even 1 lone unit "circling" the WWP... how are you going to fit them? Sounds like a fun list though | |
| | | 2wyches1raider Slave
Posts : 6 Join date : 2011-11-26 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Mon Nov 28 2011, 16:17 | |
| Yeah, it's 1 beastmaster for 5x khymeras. Well i could drop some wracks for another haemi in squad 2 and get a venom instead, and maybe drop acothyst? | |
| | | Talos Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 166 Join date : 2011-09-15 Location : Malmö
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Mon Nov 28 2011, 21:11 | |
| The first thing that strikes my mind then i lock at your list is this little thought, way a wwp? This army list does not need it, not at all. For a wwb tactic to be useful it should include at least two of them, and two wwp is a lot of pts, in a 1000pts army those two portals would be 10% of your army, that’s just ridicules. Now to way one portal is kind of meeh. You deploy your raider caring your portal 12 inche in on the table, your first turn you fly 12 more and deploy the portal. If your troops arrive during turn 2 they now start 24 inches in. If you deployed your beasts instead they would also be deployed 12 in on the table. Move 6 and fleet around 4, which are around 22 inches in. However, if the units don’t arrive before turn 3, or in worst case scenario turn 4, they would have covered more ground without the wwp. Then we have your units. wracks liquefier guns, take them, they are that awesome. If you have to choose, replace the scissors with them. The chance for a ap1 flamer is just too good to ignore. Beastmasters: consider to replace some of the khymera with soma razorwings, my experience with these is that they are even better mixed. Scourges: having dark lances on scourges, is not in my opinion the best option. There is a large thread around here that discuse the scourges loadout, https://thedarkcity.forummotion.com/t1059-best-weapons-for-scourges . Cronso: I´m no fan of this one, I would consider to replace him with a talos with chain flails and tw haywire blaster. He whuld give you a long rang anti tank gun, and cc support for your wracks. | |
| | | Kesharq Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 129 Join date : 2011-09-30 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Mon Nov 28 2011, 21:24 | |
| - 2wyches1raider wrote:
5x scourges, 2x dark lance , 140
I would drop the scourges and get 3 TB with 2 DL or 3 Blaster + a Venom w/ 2 SC instead. Or get a Ravager w/ FF. Scourges w/ DL are too immobile - Ravagers move 12" and are able to shoot all their lances | |
| | | 2wyches1raider Slave
Posts : 6 Join date : 2011-11-26 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Thu Dec 01 2011, 09:53 | |
| I redid the list.
HQ
Haemonculi ancient, Liquifer gun, agoniser, wwp 135p
Troops
8x wracks liq,raider, 160pt 9x wracks 1x acothyst, 2xliq, agoniser, raider, 210pt 5x warriors, 1x blaster, Venom 2x splinter cannons, 120pt 5x warriors, 1x blaster, Venom 2x splinter cannons, 120pt
Fast attack
5x Scourge 2x dark lances 140pt
Heavy support
1x talos, chain flail, TL haywire blaster, 115
I keept the scourges because if i have a ravager it won't last the first shooting phase because it is just such a easy target when fielding just one lonely. so i rather have a unit of 5 with inv save so i can allocate the first wounds on the shardcarbine guys.
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| | | Tanhausen Hellion
Posts : 75 Join date : 2011-11-17 Location : Spain
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Thu Dec 01 2011, 10:25 | |
| I wouldn't count too much on the scourge invul... but the cover save is another story I like you list... at 1k, probably a nice compact idea | |
| | | Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Coven 1000p (1018) Thu Dec 01 2011, 18:02 | |
| Is it really worth it to run the WWP just for the single Talos and maybe the Scourges? Both will do fine starting on the table (frankly, the Scourges will do better) and that's a lot of points you can free up there. | |
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