Sneak Peek at New Drukhari Codex

So, we dont actually need to take 3 patrols to not pay CP for detachments? 2 will do just as well?

Potentially night shields will become a minus to hit, like flickerfields? Or a modifier to the enemy BS?

Im hoping that we get some stuff that mods opponent BS/WS, to get around the hit mod cap.

I really like lots of these changes (not all but such is life).
I'd started to get more cautious with the quality of the last couple of reveals/articles but this is much more like it!

1) - Love the idea of upgrading archons, looking forward to seeing what other options this gives and if succubi and haemonculi get the same treatment.

2) - Trueborn look like a great little upgrade. If they get extra choices for weapons even better but this wouldn't be required as they look atm.

3) - Raiding force and realspace raid are a little confusing to me. Maybe I'm misreading it but the raiding force is the 3 patrol thing and seems the same as before. The realspace raid detachment looks interesting but doesn't explain what it is fully... Is it any type of detachment that can fit the minimum of the 3 patrols worth of HQs and troop in it? or is it a separate thing?? If it gives us the option to pick any detachment that is nice but still locks us into always taking 1 hq and troops choice from each subfaction, which is a decent amount of points. The one plus we can say for sure is that the archon now gives rerolls to all core stuff in the detachment, which seems like a really nice buff. Fingers crossed he can fit in and use that aura from at least one of our transports!

4) - Poison tongue looks really nice! The redeploy strat is amazing as ever but I am slightly concerned that such good stuff is being locked behind specific obsessions again. It could be that this hardly sees play (like in 8th) if the other obsessions are better. Hopefully, we win get good universal stratagems too though.

5) - Power from pain looks great! The lose of the 6 FnP isn't great but I never liked the extra time spent on that dice roll. I just hope that they give extra stuff to compensate for its loss in units that benefitted a lot from it (coven units mostly). They look like they've already done this with wyches (extra attacks and ap) and kabalites (extra armour and attack).
Advance and charge on everything on turn 2 is huge! this is great on transports, coven monsters, wyches, bikes almost everything save the ravager and kabal gunboats will love this change I think. This pairs so well with endanced aethersails strat (if it remains).
I also like the other buffs but the second one is the real big win for me. This basically makes all wyche units red grief and frees up their choices to other obsessions without cutting mobility.

6) - Love the drugs change! Now excited to see what drugs choices actually are.

7) - These relics look nice and are an improved on their previous versions. I also don't see a obsession specific wording on the Djin blade! This might mean it can now be taken on any archons, lovely stuff.

Overall, I'm very pleasantly surprised by these reveals. I'm now back in the optimistic camp!
I'm very interested to see how/if nightshielding/flickerfields have changed, other HQ abilities, other obsessions, what buffs combat drugs give and how the bloodbrides and elite wracks look.

Well, I'm over the moon with this update. I'm not fully drinking the cool aid just yet (these articles have been wrong before, remember the tau 9th edition article?).

But advance and charge alone is amazing.

Having the Archon double attack once isn't too bad. Mike only survives 0-1 combat phases anyway

Oh...kay. I'm going to accept that I was wrong.

This looks pretty amazing and way, way better than I expected!

The Strange Dark One wrote:

I just noticed that we only benefit from PfP if all units in our army are Drukhari or unaligned.

Wait... what?

What is unaligned?
they reference "blades for hire" and if they are the unaligned, that means...

no allies.
Ever.
And no ally would ever take a detachment of Drukhari.
ever.

This cannot be right.
and if it is...

Very subtle backstab GW.. kudos. You managed to steal the excitement I was feeling for this codex.

Well done indeed.

Unaligned has always been in reference to the standard fortifications, though it also covers stuff like ambulls. I assume that blades for hire will work the same as they do currently.

Skulnbonz wrote:

The Strange Dark One wrote:

I just noticed that we only benefit from PfP if all units in our army are Drukhari or unaligned.

Wait... what?

What is unaligned?
they reference "blades for hire" and if they are the unaligned, that means...

no allies.
Ever.
And no ally would ever take a detachment of Drukhari.
ever.

This cannot be right.
and if it is...

Very subtle backstab GW.. kudos. You managed to steal the excitement I was feeling for this codex.

Well done indeed.

Unaligned is Fortifications and specialist units from other games like Blackstone Fortress. I love the Ambull for example, but I could not take it easily with the old rules, now I can.

Skulnbonz wrote:

The Strange Dark One wrote:

I just noticed that we only benefit from PfP if all units in our army are Drukhari or unaligned.

Wait... what?

What is unaligned?
they reference "blades for hire" and if they are the unaligned, that means...

no allies.
Ever.
And no ally would ever take a detachment of Drukhari.
ever.

This cannot be right.
and if it is...

Very subtle backstab GW.. kudos. You managed to steal the excitement I was feeling for this codex.

Well done indeed.

Sadly, this ^^

I was getting cautiously optimistic over the preview as most of the rules are at least okay, if not exactly what I was hoping for. I was still somewhat dubious over the change from FNP to invulnerable, not because I think it's worse but because they have revealed literally NOTHING about the covens thus far and I suspect that is where the nerfhammer is going to fall.

Then I read PfP...

TheBaconPope wrote:

Wait...is Power From Pain going to be our freaking monofaction rule?

You seem so suprised?

Skulnbonz wrote:

The Strange Dark One wrote:

I just noticed that we only benefit from PfP if all units in our army are Drukhari or unaligned.

Wait... what?

What is unaligned?
they reference "blades for hire" and if they are the unaligned, that means...

no allies.
Ever.
And no ally would ever take a detachment of Drukhari.
ever.

This cannot be right.
and if it is...

Very subtle backstab GW.. kudos. You managed to steal the excitement I was feeling for this codex.

Well done indeed.

Yeah, I was actually getting somewhat hopeful. Then GW apparently realised we didn't have a bonus for not allying. Don't worry - just take one of our core rules and lock it away.

Power From Pain being monofaction only is definitely a huge hit to Eldar soup of most stripes, but (being optimistic) we could still receive some kind of bonus rule. God knows most 9th factions have general rules alongside their mono-faction ones, unless GW want to be stubborn and insist that poison and combat drugs count as them.

I personally hate soup. Didn't like it in 6/7th (was that when we had Taudar riptide wing?), didn't like it in 8th with the Loyal 32, don't like it in 9th.

I like having a restriction on cherry picking the best units from multiple books. You can put me in Team GW today

albions-angel wrote:

Potentially night shields will become a minus to hit, like flickerfields? Or a modifier to the enemy BS?

The laziest way will be "+1 to invuln saves against shooting".

Whch will open into an interesting toughness on late game. Surprisingly good for objective stealers like we are.

Then I guess it will be 1 Obsession that will consider PfP 1 turn above. So...

The Yncarne better be exempt from this or we riot.

Yeah, well it would be nice if they could make an exception for say, a detachment of harlequins.  They used to be *in* our codex.

fisheyes wrote:

I personally hate soup. Didn't like it in 6/7th (was that when we had Taudar riptide wing?), didn't like it in 8th with the Loyal 32, don't like it in 9th.

I like having a restriction on cherry picking the best units from multiple books. You can put me in Team GW today

Well you're not alone. So is it extra gloomy in here? Team GW doesn't like housekeeping for visitors.

fisheyes wrote:

I personally hate soup. Didn't like it in 6/7th (was that when we had Taudar riptide wing?), didn't like it in 8th with the Loyal 32, don't like it in 9th.

I like having a restriction on cherry picking the best units from multiple books. You can put me in Team GW today

I know, right, if only DE had some other penalty that restricted their ability to ally.

Say, just for the sake of example, if their faction was still pointlessly split into 3 and you can't mix them without jumping through hoops.

Soulless Samurai wrote:

fisheyes wrote:

I personally hate soup. Didn't like it in 6/7th (was that when we had Taudar riptide wing?), didn't like it in 8th with the Loyal 32, don't like it in 9th.

I like having a restriction on cherry picking the best units from multiple books. You can put me in Team GW today

I know, right, if only DE had some other penalty that restricted their ability to ally.

Say, just for the sake of example, if their faction was still pointlessly split into 3 and you can't mix them without jumping through hoops.

We are Dark Eldar, we love pain and suffering.

ArchonessNabu wrote:

Soulless Samurai wrote:

fisheyes wrote:

I personally hate soup. Didn't like it in 6/7th (was that when we had Taudar riptide wing?), didn't like it in 8th with the Loyal 32, don't like it in 9th.

I like having a restriction on cherry picking the best units from multiple books. You can put me in Team GW today

I know, right, if only DE had some other penalty that restricted their ability to ally.

Say, just for the sake of example, if their faction was still pointlessly split into 3 and you can't mix them without jumping through hoops.

We are Dark Eldar, we love pain and suffering.

Apparently not, otherwise we'd have retained our ability to shrug off wounds on a 6+.

question: Raid mastermind looks like it will work for every core unit regardless if they are wych, kabal or coven inside the detchment or am i reading this wrong? Also its for any attack not only ranged so if i understand this correctly its a major buff no?

edit: also mercenaries seem to benefit as well they do get the realspece raiders keyword too

There's a name for souped Eldar: it is YNNARI.

Just wait their rework.

I love the monofaction, so I'm pretty fine with that. And MAYBE, in the next Codex Harlequins we will see the options to pick few units to insert in any Eldar detatchment without losing anything. Who knows.

Skulnbonz wrote:

The Strange Dark One wrote:

I just noticed that we only benefit from PfP if all units in our army are Drukhari or unaligned.

Wait... what?

What is unaligned?
they reference "blades for hire" and if they are the unaligned, that means...

no allies.
Ever.

There's some Necromunda and Chapter Approved Stuff which is unaligned (like the Ambull or Fortifications)

Skulnbonz wrote:

And no ally would ever take a detachment of Drukhari.

Don't worry. Since Ravagers and aircraft don't seem to benefit much from PfP, they still seem lucrative options to use as allies.

isn't it nice of GW to consider our classic and fluffy BH Ravager spearhead (and nerf them subsequently)? It's Coven and Wych Cults which are losing big when taking allies.

It's not all completely dire yet. Presumably, there will be some (good?) Ynnari rules that make for losing PfP? With some luck GW will realize that there are Ynnari-aligned Coven factions as well and do somehing about it... yeah I'm naive like that.

The difference is that the other factions got advantages for not souping, while we get disadvantages for souping.