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PostSubject: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30 2014, 00:19

Looking for some feedback - always been a Iyanden fan (it's what got me into the game), and now I'm trying to work Dark Eldar into a list for some 'High Toughness/Heavy Hitting/Low Number' and 'Swarming/More Warm bodies to the table' synergy.

Point Bracket - 1850 (Currently 1845)

Baron Sathonyx

5 Beastmasters
     15 Khymerae
     4 Razorwing Flocks

5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
     Venom,  Splinter Cannon
5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
     Venom,  Splinter Cannon
 
5 Wraithguard, D-Scythe
     1 Wave Serpent, Holo-Fields,  TL Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannon
5 Wraithguard, D-Scythe
     1 Wave Serpent, Holo-Fields,  TL Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannon

Farseer, Runes of Warding,  Eldar Jetbike, + Singing Spear

Spiritseer

Wraithknight (Warlord) + Suncannon


So 4 troops, 1 Fast attack; Wraithknight needs more dakka, but not sure where to take the points off. Thinking of going just one unit of Wyches and adding a unit of Warp Spiders instead.

Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30 2014, 03:51

Beasts benefit in a big way from being fearless so if you can fins pts to give your Farseer Shard or Anaris and attach him to the Beasts they will be very hard to shift (as well as rolling up Fortune too)
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30 2014, 12:22

Thanks, completely forgot about the shard!

Removed the 2nd Wych unit, added a min Jetbike unit.


Total Roster Cost: 1846


5 Beastmasters
     15 Khymerae
     4 Razorwing Flocks

Baron Sathonyx
 
5 Wraithguard + D-Scythe
      Wave Serpent, Holo-Fields + TL Scatter Lasers  + Shuriken Cannon

  5 Wraithguard + D-Scythe
      Wave Serpent, Holo-Fields + TL Scatter Lasers  + Shuriken Cannon

   Farseer, Runes of Warding + Eldar Jetbike, Shard of Anaris

   Spiritseer

   Wraithknight (Warlord) Suncannon  + Scatter Laser x2


  5 Wyches, Haywire, Venom + Extra VC


  3 Windrider Jetbike Squad
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30 2014, 16:23

I think you are very light on Anti-Vehicle. I would like to see the Wraithknight be stock and run around with Strength 10 guns that way he can just focus on Vehicles and MCs. Or switch out 1 squad of Wraithguard for their stock Wraithcannons. Be sure to put the Spiritseer with that squad and you can cast Battle Focus on them (if running Iyanden Supplement) to be sure theyre in range Turn 1 or 2.

Also, doing either of those and dropping the bikes, you should be able to add in another Wych squad in a Venom with Haywires.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30 2014, 16:26

Is the wraithknight HQ for Iyanden?
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 01 2014, 04:03

I'm hesitant to go only 1 D-scythe unit; the weapon has been amazing for me. Unfortunately it's also the only way to make room for the 2nd wych squad, which would help a lot in terms of anti-tank and scoring units.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 01 2014, 18:45

Made a few changes, I'm fond of it. Thank you for your input Yeeman.
Zeno - the Wraithknight as a Warlord is an Iyanden only skill.

Wraithknight - swapped out for base with 2 heavy wraithcannons and 1x scatter laser. The way I see it, the scatter laser is a cheap twin link, no need for a second.

Added a Shard of Anaris to the Farseer

Was able to fit the second unit of wyches back in

Still 2 d-scythes.

Total Roster Cost: 1850


  5 Beastmasters
     15 Khymerae
     4 Razorwing Flocks

   Baron Sathonyx

   Spiritseer

  5 Wraithguard + D-Scythe
     1 Wave Serpent, TL Scatter Lasers  + Shuriken Cannon

 5 Wraithguard + D-Scythe
     1 Wave Serpent, TL Scatter Lasers  + Shuriken Cannon


   Farseer, + Eldar Jetbike + Shard of Anaris

Warlord: Wraithknight + Scatter Laser x1


  5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
     1 Venom  + Splinter Cannon 10

5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
     1 Venom  + Splinter Cannon 10
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 02 2014, 05:58

I dont like the Scatter Laser on the Knight because he can only shoot two weapons so one of his guns will be wasted. Plus you should probably have Guide or Prescience, so twinlinking is still possible. I would drop the Laser in favor of the Spirit Stone as that is just a steal for 15 points. Then use the last 5 points for a Singing Spear.

I like the look and feel of the list a lot more now.
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PostSubject: Re: Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack   Eldar/Dark Eldar Iyanden Beastpack I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 02 2014, 12:29

SCP Yeeman wrote:
I dont like the Scatter Laser on the Knight because he can only shoot two weapons so one of his guns will be wasted.  Plus you should probably have Guide  or Prescience, so twinlinking is still possible.  

I didn't even think about that, thanks!

SCP Yeeman wrote:
I would drop the Laser in favor of the Spirit Stone as that is just a steal for 15 points. Then use the last 5 points for a Singing Spear.

Done.


Total Roster Cost: 1850


5 Beastmasters
15 Khymerae
4 Razorwing Flocks

Baron Sathonyx

Spiritseer

5 Wraithguard + D-Scythe
1 Wave Serpent, TL Scatter Lasers + Shuriken Cannon

5 Wraithguard + D-Scythe
1 Wave Serpent, TL Scatter Lasers + Shuriken Cannon


Farseer, + Eldar Jetbike + Shard of Anaris + Spirit Stone + Spear

Warlord: Wraithknight + 2 Heavy D Cannons


5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
1 Venom + Splinter Cannon

5 Wyches + Haywire Grenades
1 Venom + Splinter Cannon


I'm liking the looks of it a lot too now. I think with 25 warm bodies on the board, it makes target prioritization even more difficult, making up for a major weakness of Iyanden-style lists: our lack of wound allocations for anything that cracks our armor. Anti-tank is beefed up to some solid options, and the Wyches have worked well as surprise anti-tank that makes landraiders keep their distance.

Granted, if I wanted to really, truly optimize this list I would likely choose other Eldar units, but that's not really the point.
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