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django_unchained wrote:
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Apologies if you've answered this. What is the detachment that let's the archon up the pfp turn number like the haemy does? And is it all units within a certain distance like uriens father of pain power? Thanks!!!

Its a formation, not a detachment. And the archon affects the Whole army.

The formation is: 1 archon, 1 Court, 1 unit incubi, 1 ravager, 6 units of warriors, 1unit of scourges and 1 unit of hellions. All unit that have access to raider/venom must take one.
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notts wrote:
Are kabalites minimum unit size 10+?
so no more 5 troopers in a venom?

unit size is 5 to 20. Like before.
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The_Burning_Eye wrote:
notts wrote:
Are kabalites minimum unit size 10+?
so no more 5 troopers in a venom?

I seem to recall the answer was no, minimum 5 but you have to have 10 to take a raider.


5 warriors can take a raider. No unit size restrictions for transports.
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Scorpion wrote:
django_unchained wrote:
Scorpion,


Apologies if you've answered this. What is the detachment that let's the archon up the pfp turn number like the haemy does? And is it all units within a certain distance like uriens father of pain power? Thanks!!!

Its a formation, not a detachment. And the archon affects the Whole army.

The formation is: 1 archon, 1 Court, 1 unit incubi, 1 ravager, 6 units of warriors, 1unit of scourges and 1 unit of hellions. All unit that have access to raider/venom must take one.

One more question: which of these are mandatory? I wanna take the least amount of things while getting this buff.
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django_unchained wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
django_unchained wrote:
Scorpion,


Apologies if you've answered this. What is the detachment that let's the archon up the pfp turn number like the haemy does? And is it all units within a certain distance like uriens father of pain power? Thanks!!!

Its a formation, not a detachment. And the archon affects the Whole army.

The formation is: 1 archon, 1 Court, 1 unit incubi, 1 ravager, 6 units of warriors, 1unit of scourges and 1 unit of hellions. All unit that have access to raider/venom must take one.

One more question: which of these are mandatory? I wanna take the least amount of things while getting this buff.

all of them are. Its a formation.
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Scorpion wrote:
django_unchained wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
django_unchained wrote:
Scorpion,


Apologies if you've answered this. What is the detachment that let's the archon up the pfp turn number like the haemy does? And is it all units within a certain distance like uriens father of pain power? Thanks!!!

Its a formation, not a detachment. And the archon affects the Whole army.

The formation is: 1 archon, 1 Court, 1 unit incubi, 1 ravager, 6 units of warriors, 1unit of scourges and 1 unit of hellions. All unit that have access to raider/venom must take one.

One more question: which of these are mandatory? I wanna take the least amount of things while getting this buff.

all of them are. Its a formation.


Gotcha, that's a bummer. It's not very good. I had plans to have most of my army 2 turns ahead first turn.
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Haven't seen this answered, do warriors still have to be 10 models strong before you can buy a splinter cannon or dark lance? Has the number of special/heavy weapons for a warrior unit been changed (previously 1 special and 2 heavy if 20 models strong)?

What does hydra gauntlets, shardnet/impaler and razor flails cost?
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Hi! I have a few questions:

1.Did Toxin Blades for vehicles change?
2.Did Grisly Trophies for vehicles change?
3.Can i put Chain Snares on a Venom?
4.If i can put Chain Snares on a Venom does that allow me to Tank Shock (like rumored) with a Venom?

Thanks for your toil Scorpion!
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Hi, I've a couple of questions that I haven't seen asked yet

What rules does Lelith have? Has she been buffed at all?

Same for Drazhar, I've heard he's about 40 points cheaper and keeps his phoenix lord stats, but has he received any buffs/nerfs to his dmg output/rules?
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Septimus wrote:
Haven't seen this answered, do warriors still have to be 10 models strong before you can buy a splinter cannon or dark lance? Has the number of special/heavy weapons for a warrior unit been changed (previously 1 special and 2 heavy if 20 models strong)?

What does hydra gauntlets, shardnet/impaler and razor flails cost?
The same as before
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I heard a rumor Reavers have Hit & Run. Is this true?
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I heard a rumor Reavers have Hit & Run.  Is this true?

That was answered earlier, was a yes.
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Scorpion wrote:
The_Burning_Eye wrote:
notts wrote:
Are kabalites minimum unit size 10+?
so no more 5 troopers in a venom?

I seem to recall the answer was no, minimum 5 but you have to have 10 to take a raider.


5 warriors can take a raider. No unit size restrictions for transports.

wait so your telling me that i can stuff 40 guys in a raider? that doesnt sound right
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you cant, but you can take it so it will drift beside them, and 5-15 or 5-20 is squad size probbably
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urden93 wrote:
you cant, but you can take it so it will drift beside them, and 5-15 or 5-20 is squad size probbably

thatd be awesome Very Happy cause i have to buy so many vehicles lol.
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For those with the Coven Supplement:

Does the Coven Supplement change anything about Wracks - wargear loadout, amount of special weapons -- anything needed to know for assembling purposes?
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ciirian, there is a separate thread on the supplement, and I think they've answered that question there!
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Animus vitae is army wide or just the unit with the IC? stinger pistol vent up 4+ or its screwed here?
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So, just to clarify and confirm the death of my whole army concept - the only units that we can possibly take as troops across the whole of our business are kabalites and wyches?

I gotta say that rather ruffles my tufts.
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It seems to me that GW have made troops irrelevant in 7th ed.
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Khalyxidae hybristoma wrote:
So, just to clarify and confirm the death of my whole army concept - the only units that we can possibly take as troops across the whole of our business are kabalites and wyches?

I gotta say that rather ruffles my tufts.

Yep, we've gone from four Troop choices to (effectively) one. Yay!!!
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Count Adhemar wrote:
Khalyxidae hybristoma wrote:
So, just to clarify and confirm the death of my whole army concept - the only units that we can possibly take as troops across the whole of our business are kabalites and wyches?

I gotta say that rather ruffles my tufts.

Yep, we've gone from four Troop choices to (effectively) one. Yay!!!

I wouldn't be so quick to discount wyches as they are the only unit to have assault grenades, and be able to contest and possibly seize held objectives. They can also lock down key units.
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PainReaver wrote:
Count Adhemar wrote:
Khalyxidae hybristoma wrote:
So, just to clarify and confirm the death of my whole army concept - the only units that we can possibly take as troops across the whole of our business are kabalites and wyches?

I gotta say that rather ruffles my tufts.

Yep, we've gone from four Troop choices to (effectively) one. Yay!!!

I wouldn't be so quick to discount wyches as they are the only unit to have assault grenades, and be able to contest and possibly seize held objectives. They can also lock down key units.

Scourges have plasmanades too Very Happy
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Just a quick clarification: a few pages back I saw a few references to 'solitaires' with regard to Venom Blades. I assume this is a typo of 'Solarite'; the Scourge champion, and not a new entry? Thanks.
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It was. Scorpion corrected himself later.
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