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Rokuro Wych
Posts : 619 Join date : 2014-11-25
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Mon Feb 02 2015, 23:37 | |
| - MarcoAvrelis wrote:
- Sorry to be childish, but, did they really had to place a pair under the shaft of the guns barrel?
Oh god... | |
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Mushkilla Arena Champion
Posts : 4017 Join date : 2012-07-16 Location : Toroid Arena
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 08:03 | |
| - MarcoAvrelis wrote:
- Now that's a bike with 'nades.
But they give it hit and run. | |
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Tengu Wych
Posts : 533 Join date : 2013-05-02 Location : The Quantum Realm
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 10:50 | |
| Im sorry, I just got that joke.... | |
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melkorthetonedeaf Hellion
Posts : 67 Join date : 2014-02-10 Location : Webway
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 17:13 | |
| Wait, did I miss something? | |
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Gobsmakked Rumour Scourge
Posts : 3274 Join date : 2011-05-14 Location : Vancouver, BC
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 18:46 | |
| The rules for the Skyweaver jetbikes have supposedly leaked:
http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2015/02/leaked-harlequin-skyweaver-rules.html
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Erebus HTMLaemonculus
Posts : 376 Join date : 2013-02-13 Location : Your nightmares
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 18:51 | |
| I was literally just about to post that.
Not sure how I feel about Haywire cannon being Blast. Potential to hit more than one vehicle if clustered, but I rarely find my opponents bunch up their vehicles.
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MarcoAvrelis Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 180 Join date : 2014-02-23
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 19:01 | |
| So they're st5 ap2 on charge? (If they take the spear).
Nice. quick way to dispose termies. | |
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Erebus HTMLaemonculus
Posts : 376 Join date : 2013-02-13 Location : Your nightmares
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 19:09 | |
| - MarcoAvrelis wrote:
- So they're st5 ap2 on charge? (If they take the spear).
They're still elves, so only S4 on the charge. Jetbikes don't increase strength. | |
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The PayneTrayn Hellion
Posts : 71 Join date : 2014-07-20
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 19:42 | |
| Furious charge makes them S4, weapon gives another +1 for a total of S5 on the charge. | |
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MarcoAvrelis Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 180 Join date : 2014-02-23
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 20:00 | |
| They need 3A base (+1 xhw, +1 charge) for a unit of 3 to statistically wipe a 5-man termie squad (without shields) on the charge.
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Trystis Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 220 Join date : 2012-12-01
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 20:15 | |
| - Erebus wrote:
- MarcoAvrelis wrote:
- So they're st5 ap2 on charge? (If they take the spear).
They're still elves, so only S4 on the charge. Jetbikes don't increase strength. They have furious charge as well so the total would be S5. Not a fan of the blast stuff on bikes cause they will probably need to jink, but they seem fun if not very competitive. It really comes down to number of attacks, which is annoyingly left out of the rumor. I kinda like that they have shuriken cannons. Some nice mid strength is a bit lacking in the DE codex. | |
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Erebus HTMLaemonculus
Posts : 376 Join date : 2013-02-13 Location : Your nightmares
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:06 | |
| - The PayneTrayn wrote:
- Furious charge makes them S4, weapon gives another +1 for a total of S5 on the charge.
- Trystis wrote:
- They have furious charge as well so the total would be S5.
Ah, missed that they had that special rule. | |
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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:14 | |
| hm i think i like what i see, espec if my Autarch can join in the unit such a shame DE cant have faster HQs just boats :/ not fan of blast weapons tho hoped for dual shot haywire :/ this is good VS IG or WarWalker/Wyper | |
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Aroban Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 113 Join date : 2014-03-03
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:21 | |
| 50 points for a single jetbike? Thanks, not for me pal... | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:27 | |
| Absolutely no point in having a blast weapon on a jetbike that is likely to need to jink to survive. Assault 2 would be far more useful.
And 50 points is extremely expensive, even if they do have 2 wounds each. | |
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Gobsmakked Rumour Scourge
Posts : 3274 Join date : 2011-05-14 Location : Vancouver, BC
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:43 | |
| A Vyper is about the same points, isn't it? (no Eldar codex at the moment) How do they compare, roughly?
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urden93 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 174 Join date : 2014-08-28 Location : Budapest, Hungary
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 21:56 | |
| - Gobsmakked wrote:
A Vyper is about the same points, isn't it? (no Eldar codex at the moment) How do they compare, roughly? well, vyper has a TL catapult(so lame its not worth mention tho changeable to cannon for 10 pts) 5pts for eldar dissie(S6 ap2 hvy2) 10 for scatter rest not worth mention, expensive uőgrades tho fun combo with crystal targeting(max BS shot after flat out) otherwise venom statline without invul a usefull Vyper squad: 65/70 each and 3bike unit so around 195-200 points for an annoying tho short lived unit prefering War Walkers myself for outflank/scout +battle focus and that 5+ invul however these harlies can take a 120 point Autarch with them(Soulshrive+jet+bansheemask) and/or farseer(s) soooo they vary in power compared on IC attached, tho they need a jet/board Archon so badly for tanking | |
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@miral Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 177 Join date : 2013-09-14
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 22:53 | |
| I think you would use the 4+ invul the turn you need the blastwire - instead of jinking. Might kill a vehicle with the charge. A blast haywire...feels so very strange... | |
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Massaen Klaivex
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2011-07-05 Location : Western Australia
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 23:41 | |
| Consider the marine attack bike - it's points are pretty comparable and its weapons (heavy bolter and multi melta) match up as well. It's more durable with its 3+ armour but misses out on the assault aspect and special rules. I think it's about right, points wise | |
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Evil Space Elves Haemonculus Ancient
Posts : 3717 Join date : 2011-07-13 Location : Santa Cruz, ca
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 23:45 | |
| - Count Adhemar wrote:
- Absolutely no point in having a blast weapon on a jetbike that is likely to need to jink to survive. Assault 2 would be far more useful.
And 50 points is extremely expensive, even if they do have 2 wounds each. The launchers give it a 4++ against shooting according to the leaked rules. *grain of salt at the ready These things are priced about right IMO. I've placed my order at the FLGS | |
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Erebus HTMLaemonculus
Posts : 376 Join date : 2013-02-13 Location : Your nightmares
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Tue Feb 03 2015, 23:51 | |
| - Evil Space Elves wrote:
- The launchers give it a 4++ against shooting according to the leaked rules. *grain of salt at the ready
Note they also claim it's only one use, so not exactly unreasonable. | |
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Evil Space Elves Haemonculus Ancient
Posts : 3717 Join date : 2011-07-13 Location : Santa Cruz, ca
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Wed Feb 04 2015, 00:16 | |
| - Erebus wrote:
- Evil Space Elves wrote:
- The launchers give it a 4++ against shooting according to the leaked rules. *grain of salt at the ready
Note they also claim it's only one use, so not exactly unreasonable. Good catch. | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Wed Feb 04 2015, 00:22 | |
| The 4++ does make it slightly better. I'll wait for the full rules before making my mind up. Models are very nice but not going to commit yet. | |
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Trystis Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 220 Join date : 2012-12-01
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Wed Feb 04 2015, 00:29 | |
| From Neckutter on warseer.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/03/bbaf6d326c0891ff78af689190045a7c.jpg
Looks like they're a fast attack. No assault grenades or flip belts. Hmm. | |
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Evil Space Elves Haemonculus Ancient
Posts : 3717 Join date : 2011-07-13 Location : Santa Cruz, ca
| Subject: Re: Harlequins release in early 2015? - February 3, Skyweaver jetbike rules leaked Wed Feb 04 2015, 03:15 | |
| I think it's best to think of them as fire support like an attack bike rather than assault units (that can assault in a pinch). Interesting. | |
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