Eldar Triumvirate

No we're dark eldar so we call ourselves dark eldar. I'm being pedantic you're correct.

"Aeldari and Drukhari form and allegiance, except the most conservative ones. This is not a vague philosophic stance, becasue the new divinity actually has powers- The Exhumed (unburied?) can call the souls from the spirit stones they carry to reinforce their own capacities, syphon the powers of the dead near them to with force, and reduce their enemies to ashes with their strange weapons and psychic powers. They've learned the secrets of the dead, and this way gotten closer to their ancestors and their defunct glory.

Some consider the Ynnaris to be corrupted by the daemonic forces they pretend to dominate, and some think they are already dead. If the Exhumed try to rebuild the eldar society in the name of Ynnead to restore the ancient glory of Aeldaris, their arrogant and coercive ways create as much hostility than adhesion. Even worse the danger they reprosent to the dark gods encourage chaos forces- particularly slaaneshi to rise up.

Conflict and destruction lay in the way of the ynnaris. The truth that stands with no doubt, other than hope, is that the Exhumed are bringers of death."

aurynn wrote:

So we are Drukhari then?

Kinda looks like Druchii from old fantasy.

Seems Biel Tan is no more...

TBH they should have just nuked Ulthwe. It's the one closest to the Eye of Terror anyway, it would make sense.

I'm so naming my next Archon 'Count Drukhula'.
He wants to dringk your blaaaad soul. Ah Ah Ah Ah!

Drukhari is really bad IMO... I would have gone with Druchii with much easier heart and even my soul tettering at the edge of warp would smile a bit.

TeenageAngst wrote:

Corsairs are not GW in the traditional sense. Corsairs are what happens when FW realizes that the Dark Eldar codex is bad but people still want to use the models. There's a reason more than half their codex doesn't have representative models ready-made by the company. Those that do are plastic GW kits with new rules and options, or actually pretty cheap FW models.

Ummm, the first edition of Imperial Armor 11 pre-dates our 7th edition codex...

Well, when I first read about all the nuking of Biel-Tan and the forming of a new eldar union I thought 'Stunning. So we throw out old fluff to make way for new, probably worse* fluff. Great job GeeDubs. Go stick your head in a bucket of worms'.

However, reading about the Ynnari has actually made me happier about it. By the sounds of things, they're not likely to completely merge the Craftworlders and True Kin to make a new, made-up space-Aelf faction. What they're doing is actually adding to the nuance, rather than taking it away.

They're adding in a new pan-Eldar death-cult faction, while keeping Craftworlders and True Kin as distinct entities. It's not a unification of the Eldar, it's yet another fracturing as members of all eldar walks of life flock to this new splinter-faction. The eldar are more divided than ever.

Now, if they make it so that Ynnead is actually malevolent it would be absolutely perfect. That way, the eldar are torn between one eldar-born warp entity looking to consume their souls, and another eldar-born warp entity looking to consume their souls.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for...

That's a shame for Biel-Tan. They had my favourite colour scheme. I guess it makes my Eldar collection a little more vintage now. I'm cool with it. There's a big war, there have to be casualties. Most importantly, DE are still around!

Ynneadwraith wrote:

Now, if they make it so that Ynnead is actually malevolent it would be absolutely perfect. That way, the eldar are torn between one eldar-born warp entity looking to consume their souls, and another eldar-born warp entity looking to consume their souls.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for...

"What do you mean the God of Death actually wants to kill us? Who would have thought? Our plan was flawless!"

It would be perfect that the Eldar create another God to destroy Slaanesh just to see it turn against them as soon as the deal is done. Back to square one. Cegorach would have a good laugh over this.

Also, switching Slaanesh with Ynnead in the chaos God pantheon would make sense business-wise for GW. They've been neglecting him for years because children apparently can't stand the sight of a nipple this days.

Heh. Consider this - CWE culture and their army, DE culture and their army, Harlies culture and their army, but if you pledge your allegiance to Ynnead - e.g. take his detachment or HQ, you may use units from any of those armies... Sounds familiar. :-D

Ynneadwraith wrote:

Well, when I first read about all the nuking of Biel-Tan and the forming of a new eldar union I thought 'Stunning. So we throw out old fluff to make way for new, probably worse* fluff. Great job GeeDubs. Go stick your head in a bucket of worms'.

However, reading about the Ynnari has actually made me happier about it. By the sounds of things, they're not likely to completely merge the Craftworlders and True Kin to make a new, made-up space-Aelf faction. What they're doing is actually adding to the nuance, rather than taking it away.

They're adding in a new pan-Eldar death-cult faction, while keeping Craftworlders and True Kin as distinct entities. It's not a unification of the Eldar, it's yet another fracturing as members of all eldar walks of life flock to this new splinter-faction. The eldar are more divided than ever.

Now, if they make it so that Ynnead is actually malevolent it would be absolutely perfect. That way, the eldar are torn between one eldar-born warp entity looking to consume their souls, and another eldar-born warp entity looking to consume their souls.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for...

I'm in almost complete agreement here, though I don't see any reason for Ynnead to be malevolent. Thats not to say he has to be benevolent either, it would be best (IMO) if it's working for it's own reasons and they just happen to work for or against those of other Eldar.

I collect all three armies and I've allied them from time to time.
But I also want to maintain an independent feel for them. That they are distinct and individual. As long as they keep them as such I don't mind that they get a few shared formations

As for the names. Aeldari and Drukhari. I'm not sold yet, but maybe over time. They do match eachother fine. And just adding the word "dark" might have been a bit cheap in the first place.

I'm glad that we get the attention. I just hope we come out stronger and not amputated as just a footnote in an overall Eldar faction.

DEfan wrote:

That's a shame for Biel-Tan. They had my favourite colour scheme. I guess it makes my Eldar collection a little more vintage now. I'm cool with it. There's a big war, there have to be casualties. Most importantly, DE are still around!

Yeah it is a shame. My favourite craftworld too. I love the idea of belligerent militant Eldar.

However, depending on the way the story goes you could take your Biel Tan Eldar in some rather interesting directions. First I'm thinking about a 'Biel Tan Diaspora', with survivors fleeing to whatever safe refuge they can find. Then you can build stuff like Biel Tan mercenaries into your army, or remnants of the Court of the Young King fighting to unify their people and reclaim and rebuild their craftworld and culture.

If there's any Craftworld that would come out of a destruction event kicking and screaming, it's Biel Tan

BizarreShowbiz wrote:

"What do you mean the God of Death actually wants to kill us? Who would have thought? Our plan was flawless!"

It would be perfect that the Eldar create another God to destroy Slaanesh just to see it turn against them as soon as the deal is done. Back to square one. Cegorach would have a good laugh over this.

Also, switching Slaanesh with Ynnead in the chaos God pantheon would make sense business-wise for GW. They've been neglecting him for years because children apparently can't stand the sight of a nipple this days.

Haha! Exactly fits right into the narrative about Eldar hubris. They couldn't possibly imagine that their new eldar-born god would be anything other than their saviour.

I do hope that they don't AoS Slaanesh though. Some sort of ongoing struggle between the two over rights to the souls of dead Eldar would be good just put bras on the Daemonettes if they're so worried

Imateria wrote:

I'm in almost complete agreement here, though I don't see any reason for Ynnead to be malevolent. Thats not to say he has to be benevolent either, it would be best (IMO) if it's working for it's own reasons and they just happen to work for or against those of other Eldar.

Glad I'm onto something!

Yeah the malevolent thing was just something I thought would be a fun little twist. Not necessary at all.

Actually, what I think would be slightly more nuanced is if Ynnead really does care for his Eldar. Can you imagine what the 'care' of a Warp God of the Dead might be like? I'd be willing to bet it's not going to be rainbows and cuddles. Think how Nurgle cares for his flock. Something twisted like that, with equally twisted followers...

Reminds me of something I came up with for a fantasy novel I must get round to writing properly:

Spoiler:

Make Ynnead creepy. Like that.

Jehoel wrote:

I collect all three armies and I've allied them from time to time.
But I also want to maintain an independent feel for them. That they are distinct and individual. As long as they keep them as such I don't mind that they get a few shared formations

As for the names. Aeldari and Drukhari. I'm not sold yet, but maybe over time. They do match eachother fine. And just adding the word "dark" might have been a bit cheap in the first place.

I'm glad that we get the attention. I just hope we come out stronger and not amputated as just a footnote in an overall Eldar faction.

Yeah it's beginning to look like the 'additional faction that has shared formations' outlook, which I'm happy with I don't think that Dark Eldar will get diminished. If anything because they've got a beautiful mostly up-to-date model line

That Warhammer TV update made me preemptively broke.

Yeah, I am very excited about this "artificially created chaos god" as well. It could potentially replace Slaanesh as a forth chaos entity, but I sincerely hope that we get to keep Slaanesh for a while since I think it is the most twisted of Chaos Gods.

Also, some kind of drawback to Ynnead must be coming sonner or later. Probably not right now, but I am sure GW will do some foreshawing over time, showing us that this "God of the Dead" thing probably wasn't such a good idea after all. Usual grimdarkness.

As for the near future, I think the Eldar will benefit a lot as the focus of both Ynnead and Slaanesh will be towards fighting each other, fighting for dominance. Knowing GW, they will probably keep Ynnead and Slaanesh locked in combat for some time, giving the Eldar some time to breath (maybe even some false-hope).


Also, I am very eager how Ynneads relationship to Nurgle will be. I can totally see a Khorn/Khaine relationship going. Either way, I guess Ynnead will be our "Golden Throne", so to say.

I also love that they spilled book #2 kicks off in our city!

@The Strange Dark One

Absolutely I'd love for that to be the narrative they go for

Potted notes of the twitch TV thing from Dakka:

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Yvraine is not Lady Malys. Instead, Biel Tan born Craftworlder. Former Aspect Warrior, former Seer. Banished due to killing someone. Took up as a Corsair, killed someone else, banished from their ranks, winds up as a Wych in Commoragh.

Rising star, ends up stabbed by Lilith Herpeeax, but takes down another Eldar. Soul shard of Ynnead enters her, ressurecting Yvraine, and causes her to absorb the soul of the Eldar she'd just killed.... there is no mention at all of the Gate of Khaine opening at that point, not Daemons flooding Commoragh. At all. None. Dunno where you got your info, but seems duff.

As it's a psychic event, DE freak, and she has to flee, with the aid of the Visarch.

Nobody knows who the Visarch is, but it's apprently suggests he knows Yvraine already. Respected by Incubi and Aspect Warriors alike. Takes Yvraine to Biel Tan.

Stuff happens, and the Biel Tan infinity circuit cracks, releasing the souls. That causes Ynnead to coalesce into an entity. The various ships that comprised Biel Tan (seems Craftworlds are almagamations of ships, think organised Space Hulks) break apart, but seemingly aren't destroyed. Ynnead forms where the Infinity Circuit used to be.

Ynnead causes issues. Many Eldar see it as the rebirth of hope, as it can absorb their souls instead of Slaanesh. Others see it is a very bad thing, as functionally Ynnead is a mirror of Slaanesh.

Looks like I'll be eating an item of headgear, but apart from that it sounds about as good as it could be!

Draco wrote:

That Warhammer TV update made me preemptively broke.

Thats a good way of putting it.

Joining in a little late today. So am I right to assume we are now called Drukhari? Is it pronounced the same as Drew Carry? That's a bit disappointing...

Better than 'Aeldarki' which sounds a bit close to being a racial slur...

Welcome to the Dark Eldar, where the members are few and the victory points count for nothing. Yes, victory points are like Psykers, they don't exist.

Sarkesian wrote:

Welcome to the Dark Eldar, where the members are few and the victory points count for nothing. Yes, victory points are like Psykers, they don't exist.

Whose army is it anyway?