Eldar Triumvirate

I'm not too thrilled about seeing Biel-Tan suffer, but it gives the craftworld a nice tragic edge that I like. Plus the three new characters seem well done and I am interested in seeing how this all unfolds. I do wish they made a sprue with mixed bits to convert dire avengers/wyches/kabalites/guardians to look more unique other than simply slapping red on the current models. They end up just looking like some alternate Altansar scheme or something.

Okay... I am not the one spreading rumours usually, but... I have just bought a 10kg bag of salt... coz I have heard a rumour (from a friend TO who just returned from trip to GB and WH World) about another (albeit unlikely) triumvirate coming in forseeable future with the next stage of storyline after Cadia... Which will include Vect along with some Chaos. Which kinda suggests that Vect and the old DE clique will actually ally with... cant even say it... KAOS! I countered with the rumour about Abaddon being shot in the face by Cypher. And I was told with a smile that it does not have to happen in this trilogy, does it...? I remember reading some rumour on faeit regarding Mortarion, Abbadon and Vect, but I dismissed it as nonsense at that time. Anyone else heard anything along this way? Trying to find out if I am being pulled...

All I want to know is if somebody somewhere has actually seen the full rules for any of the triumvirate because right now they are so tame compared to the imperials.

The Red King wrote:

All I want to know is if somebody somewhere has actually seen the full rules for any of the triumvirate because right now they are so tame compared to the imperials.

Hardly a shock...

Not seen any stats as yet but the rules all seem to be in the leaked document. Phil Kelly described the Visarch as 'death on toast' in melee and his special rules and wargear do seem to be leaning that way so let's hope he doesn't let us down too badly.

Kelly also says he's not a leader or a prophet like catgirl, he's the beatstick that protects her.

So judging from the video that really is it. No 5 wounds tough 6 with regenerating models that is a better psyker than magnus huh?

I consoled myself that the imperial stuff just looked OP compared to old stuff and the other triumvirates would be just as strong. Seems I was half right. The other imperial triumvirate will probably be just as broken.

So a friend who has his book already said they become one army! You can literally mix and match the 3 codexes, sans covens into a force. Harliquins led by an Archon, Wraithknights with Reavers. It also seems like transports take on this new faction... also by friend, I mean someone on a fb group that had the book and the trio box in his hands from the netherlands I think.

Draco wrote:

So a friend who has his book already said they become one army! You can literally mix and match the 3 codexes, sans covens into a force.

If that is the case then my freakshow lists should become much easier to make!

I am instantly regretting going out and buying 12 grotesques

I wonder what allied relationship Ynnari will have with the Covens? Might still be battle brothers.

I sincerely hope so!!

Destroyed vehicles trigger Soulburst, but vehicles cannot use the soulburst ability.

Draco wrote:

Destroyed vehicles trigger Soulburst, but vehicles cannot use the soulburst ability.

That fits with the Strength from Death rule from the leaked document. I would guess all models in an Ynnarri list get Strength from Death in place of Battle Focus (CWE), Power from Pain (DE) or erm...?(Harlequins).

Correct. And not sure Harliquins loose anything in particular. This should mean your stock in venoms and raiders just went up.

If destroyed vehicles trigger soulburst
and soulburst lets you make out of sequence actions.
5 incubi in a venom, venom gets destroyed, incubi charge the unit (or other nearby unit) that destroyed the venom on their turn? Freeing them up to run down the unit, then charge another on the DE turn?

If this is the case, i see a lot of unupgraded suicide venoms/raiders in the near future, where the enemy wont want to shoot them, but has to.
IF , and I stress IF this is the case, a whole new playstyle/dyanmic just opened up.
And TAU will never want to face us... ever.

Skulnbonz wrote:

If destroyed vehicles trigger soulburst
and soulburst lets you make out of sequence actions.
5 incubi in a venom, venom gets destroyed, incubi charge the unit (or other nearby unit) that destroyed the venom on their turn? Freeing them up to run down the unit, then charge another on the DE turn?

If this is the case, i see a lot of unupgraded suicide venoms/raiders in the near future, where the enemy wont want to shoot them, but has to.
IF , and I stress IF this is the case, a whole new playstyle/dyanmic just opened up.
And TAU will never want to face us... ever.

Each unit can only perform one Soulburst action a turn.

Also, it seems that melting the factions also removes army specific special war-gear in exchange for a new set of options. This tones down the cheese quite a bit.

Count Adhemar wrote:

I wonder what allied relationship Ynnari will have with the Covens? Might still be battle brothers.

I would be very surprised if they are anything other than Battle Brothers. Haemonculus Covens is not a codex and I don't think there has ever been a case where GW cherry picks the level of alliance a faction has against specific units of a codex.

I can see Ynnari+ Covens formations being a pretty good combo for Freakshow lists.

Draco wrote:

Each unit can only perform one Soulburst action a turn

Right. So the Incubi's ride gets blown up, they preform a charge (their soulburst action).
Did I miss something?

Skulnbonz wrote:

Draco wrote:

Each unit can only perform one Soulburst action a turn

Right. So the Incubi's ride gets blown up, they preform a charge (their soulburst action).
Did I miss something?

I'm sorry, I thought you were generating a 2nd soulburst action from destroying the unit in close combat. I'm thinking a 6 man reaver unit with 2 cc is going to be sick. Destroy a unit in close combat, then immediately assault the next closest unit.

Draco wrote:

Also, it seems that melting the factions also removes army specific special war-gear in exchange for a new set of options. This tones down the cheese quite a bit.

If that is the case then I'm back to being cheesed off

Count Adhemar wrote:

Draco wrote:

Also, it seems that melting the factions also removes army specific special war-gear in exchange for a new set of options. This tones down the cheese quite a bit.

If that is the case then I'm back to being cheesed off

But it sounds like the new army can be a cad, so you could still pull off the same idea, just with multiple cads.

Wait... are we sure you can charge into another combat after killing the unit you were in combat with?

That's game changing, no more building to not win too hard. 7 incubi can finally kill things again. And they have 4+ fnp near the Yncarne.

The Red King wrote:

Wait... are we sure you can charge into another combat after killing the unit you were in combat with?

That's game changing, no more building to not win too hard.  7 incubi can finally kill things again. And they have 4+ fnp near the Yncarne.

No, I'm not sure, but that seems to be the wording.

Potential Special Character stats: 275pts WS9 BS7 S6 T6 W5 I10 A6 LD10 3+ (Is this OK to post?)

Fixed* I think.

The Red King wrote:

Wait... are we sure you can charge into another combat after killing the unit you were in combat with?

That's game changing, no more building to not win too hard.  7 incubi can finally kill things again. And they have 4+ fnp near the Yncarne.

My... God...

IF the soulburst works the way they are saying... I would guess so!
reavers
Incubi
Wraithknights

these units just became beatsticks.