Eldar Triumvirate

So she has the Demon ability, giving her a 5+ Invul, and is a MC like the Avatar of Khaine

So basically the killiness of the Avatar of Khaine but the actual ability to get into combat.

Count Adhemar wrote:

Looks like she starts in reserve and you can deploy her when a unit is destroyed so you can stay safe until the opportunity presents itself to deploy in the enemy turn and charge in your turn then use soulburst to charge again and stay in combat away from enemy shooting.

I suppose so...so it looks like a legitimate strategy when facing an army with the Yncarne might be to avoid completely killing any whole units for the first turn, until the Yncarne comes in from reserve and has to walk on/deep strike during her own turn.

A difficult proposition if the reborn army fields a bunch of DE vehicles, lol.

BetrayTheWorld wrote:

Count Adhemar wrote:

Looks like she starts in reserve and you can deploy her when a unit is destroyed so you can stay safe until the opportunity presents itself to deploy in the enemy turn and charge in your turn then use soulburst to charge again and stay in combat away from enemy shooting.

I suppose so...so it looks like a legitimate strategy when facing an army with the Yncarne might be to avoid completely killing any whole units for the first turn, until the Yncarne comes in from reserve and has to walk on/deep strike during her own turn.

A difficult proposition if the reborn army fields a bunch of DE vehicles, lol.

Or several squads of bikes that show up in your face turn 1.

It certainly looks like it's going to create an entirely new style of play, which is quite exciting.

Agreed Count Adhemar

So Another Scenario that sounds good.

Squad of Reavers jet bikes move across the table and then during the shooting phase turbo boost.  In between 2 squads.  Then the Mass venoms shoot and kill one squad allowing the Reavers to assault the other.

Or Next to a Rhino, destroy the Rhino and then the Reavers assault the Gooey insides?


This is sounding a little OP.   Dark Eldar and OP in the Same Sentence is something I thought I would never hear.   Time to go buy some more Gangs of Commorragh.  

mrmagoo wrote:

Agreed Count Adhemar

So Another Scenario that sounds good.

Squad of Reavers jet bikes move across the table and then during the shooting phase turbo boost.  In between 2 squads.  Then the Mass venoms shoot and kill one squad allowing the Reavers to assault the other.

Or Next to a Rhino, destroy the Rhino and then the Reavers assault the Gooey insides?


This is sounding a little OP.   Dark Eldar and OP in the Same Sentence is something I thought I would never hear.   Time to go buy some more Gangs of Commorragh.  

Except you can't assault after turbo-boosting. I assume we have to follow all normal rules for moving, shooting, and assault.

Draco wrote:

mrmagoo wrote:

Agreed Count Adhemar

So Another Scenario that sounds good.

Squad of Reavers jet bikes move across the table and then during the shooting phase turbo boost.  In between 2 squads.  Then the Mass venoms shoot and kill one squad allowing the Reavers to assault the other.

Or Next to a Rhino, destroy the Rhino and then the Reavers assault the Gooey insides?


This is sounding a little OP.   Dark Eldar and OP in the Same Sentence is something I thought I would never hear.   Time to go buy some more Gangs of Commorragh.  

Except you can't assault after turbo-boosting. I assume we have to follow all normal rules for moving, shooting, and assault.

Why would you? The Soulburst is of no use if it doesn't allow a unit to activate out of sequence. You also can't charge after charging or after shooting, etc.

Draco wrote:

mrmagoo wrote:

Agreed Count Adhemar

So Another Scenario that sounds good.

Squad of Reavers jet bikes move across the table and then during the shooting phase turbo boost.  In between 2 squads.  Then the Mass venoms shoot and kill one squad allowing the Reavers to assault the other.

Or Next to a Rhino, destroy the Rhino and then the Reavers assault the Gooey insides?


This is sounding a little OP.   Dark Eldar and OP in the Same Sentence is something I thought I would never hear.   Time to go buy some more Gangs of Commorragh.  

Except you can't assault after turbo-boosting. I assume we have to follow all normal rules for moving, shooting, and assault.

Ok Yes, forgot about that. Sorry my bad.

So still no First turn assaults.

You can do it since it does not follow the normal rules of the game. It's an extra action, so you can tuboboost, then move, shoot or charge.

But it specifically stats that you cant charge after turbo boosting. I would normally agree but unless the rules says that it can ignore other rules, then I would have to say no.

PLEASE Prove me wrong. I would love to do this.

mrmagoo wrote:

But it specifically stats that you cant charge after turbo boosting.  I would normally agree but unless the rules says that it can ignore other rules, then I would have to say no.  

PLEASE Prove me wrong.  I would love to do this.

Might need FAQ-ing, but perhaps the 'can't charge after turbo-boosting' resets at the end of your turn.

Does anyone know what the BRB says about when you reset the sequence of events in a turn? If you just take 'can't charge after turbo-boosting' in isolation if you turbo-boost once you wouldn't be able to charge for the rest of the game!

You can't move in the shooting or assault phase, yet you can with soulburst.
So I'd say you could turboboost and charge.

This is how we think it will work, and having it work at initiative steps is interesting.

So, it states "a uniti can charge", codex overrules BRB.
We wait for FAQ before the book is even in the stores.

Drop pod armies are really going to have to think about their drops now.   Unit drops in and kills a Transport and then the unit inside charges the unit that killed the vehicle.


Edited
Actually that may not work.  Because the unit isn't on the table when the unit was killed, so they wouldn't be able to do that.  But a unit nearby could.

Looks like it says you can charge... so pretty much turbo 12 reavers across the board, kill one thing than multicharge!

With any luck the rules in the book (as opposed to the glossary, which is usually simplified) will explicitly permit or deny using the extra action to charge after a turboboost, vehicle disembark/explosion or Deep Strike.

Pictures from inside the book are up on Faeit 212

Yncarne is a LoW, daemon, eternal warrior ML3 Psyker (Sanctic and Revenant). Seems pretty nice.

Would we have to take sanctic on Ycarne? As perils on all doubles is bad in general and awful for the Ynnari.

Rhivan wrote:

Would we have to take sanctic on Ycarne? As perils on all doubles is bad in general and awful for the Ynnari.

She only has Sanctic

Thanks Count I didn't know about the Daemons and Demonology rule.

Eternal warrior on the three big guys is gold. I can already hear the people whine.

Overall, disappointed with the rules for the 3 models.

The visarch...I imagine he'll probably be as expensive as a pheonix lord, yet he is still S3/T3 w/3 wounds, despite even pheonix lords getting S4/T4. Old Eldrad is tougher than he is, with a better save(3++).

Then Yvrain...looking at her post-ressurection stats, I can see why she got roflstomped by Lelith. She'd probably still get roflstomped by Lelith, and Lelith sucks(rule-wise).

As for the Yncarne...Not really a very surviveable model in the current meta. A shooting-teched wraithknight could take her out in a single turn without needing too much luck. Depending on the rest of the rules we end up with, we might be able to find ways to field her that work, such as how the Count mentioned earlier, but the model's stats and abilities don't really hold up on it's own for the price.

The best comparison is probably that her stats are basically between that of a bloodthirster and a lord of change, except she doesn't have the 1 thing that makes both of them surviveable(flight), and she's more expensive. She does have other special rules that would be useful, so long as you can keep her alive.

It's disappointing the characters themselves don't appear that great. Hopefully I'm wrong. The formations are exciting though, and the general ability to field all the models in a single army is very cool.

Interestingly enough, despite her long-standing association with Vect, Lelith is listed as one of the allowed HQs in the meta-detachment for the Ynari.