Ynnari Special Rules "Leak"

Lol the big problem with this aeldar is that what dark eldar unit is better that the eldar ones...
One of my first thoughts was talos' corpses thief claw with a 3+ feel no pain with buffs. But no coven stuff.

Reavers, Raiders, and Incubi will likely best in class, almost anything else will be chosen for a very specific niche reason.

Playing dark eldar that way is a mistake though. Wyches are not suddenly good because they have soulburst. Wyches are suddenly good because they almost always die as a whole squad. You take a seperate DE CAD filled with your chaffe to churn through while your Ynnari units like reavers can tool around with extra actions.

@aurynn, deepstrike your black guys at 9, soulburst move them in melta or flame range, melt faces, or DS in 9, force the enemy to move toward you via deathjester, flame away, or DS in vehicle in 9, disembark, ruin days.
So many possibilities.

Have I missed something but does anybody know what the cad like formation buffs are?

Logan Frost wrote:

@aurynn, deepstrike your black guys at 9, soulburst move them in melta or flame range, melt faces, or DS in 9, force the enemy to move toward you via deathjester, flame away, or DS in vehicle in 9, disembark, ruin days.
So many possibilities.

If I soulburst towards the enemy, I cannot fire. And I am not paying for a Wave Serpent to deliver 2 flamers. :-D

Why not? You can soulburst move if something dies or with the revenant power, then shoot in the normal shooting phase.
I suppose the flamers are assault, right?

Oh. You mean let them fire last, wait for something to die, move them in and fire then. True. That is a possibility.

EDIT: They cant soulburst. Its only 7'' range.

Just take the strike force as craft world and hopefully battle focus into position

This is an option, but still meh. :-D

My consideration is about Yvraine and Visarch; where did they drop their granades? Is that too much to ask for a "beatstick" characters? Now they practically call for a unit with granades or they lose their edge on charge. It's not like they can trust on the fear aspect of things.

Grenades don't transfer to the unit.

They have no war gear listed for any of them except Yvraine. So it is too much to ask for Grenades on our 200 point HQ's. You know, those things every single wych carries. Yvraine forsook hers in the name of Ynnead I guess.

GW is (oops) stupid.

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Reavers, Raiders, and Incubi will likely best in class, almost anything else will be chosen for a very specific niche reason.

Spiders are fast attack, but nice try.

And clowns in an allied is kind of... why? The entire point of clowns is unlocking Elite slots for their good units and an allied only has one.

Also Dark Eldar running psykers is the biggest fluff d*** punch I've seen yet. Might as well just say they're Drow and the reason they suck is the arbitrary +2 racial class handicap.

I think you'll see more than just Spiders in our FA slots.

You will because Aspect Hosts don't occupy FA slots.

TeenageAngst wrote:

Also Dark Eldar running psykers is the biggest fluff d*** punch I've seen yet.

From my understand it is only an issue if fighting in Commorragh I have never seen anything in the lore that says that they would have a problem with an ally using Psyker powers while outside of the Dark City. If there is something that counters this please enlighten me.

CurstAlchemist wrote:

TeenageAngst wrote:

Also Dark Eldar running psykers is the biggest fluff d*** punch I've seen yet.

From my understand it is only an issue if fighting in Commorragh I have never seen anything in the lore that says that they would have a problem with an ally using Psyker powers while outside of the Dark City. If there is something that counters this please enlighten me.

That's not only you understanding, that's the simple truth.

You could already use a Aspect Hosts with a dark eldar CAD if you wanted. I don't understand the fear of CWE taking our slots.
Of course most CWE units are better then ours, they already were. But if I did want to use every single better unit in the game I'd not be playing DE.

Reavers will make an appearance.
So will raiders and MAYBE incubi.
Nothing else though, at least not in top tier tournament lists.

What you WILL see an increase of is Blade and Board wraithknights, as this faction takes away the biggest problem they had... getting across the board quickly, as long as they are backed up by another very fast and hard hitting HTH unit(s) like... oh I don't know... reavers?

My Adepticon list may change.... :-)

Stupid me just Sold his Blade and Board Wraithknight because I thought I would never use it.

Blade and board WK was never meant to actually hit things it was meant to eat shooting for an entire turn while your army positioned and whittled away VSG charges. Also idk why people like Incubi they're absolutely awful.

Because they are the cheapest MEQ available to Eldar/Dark Eldar/ Harlequins and they have 3 AP2 attacks per body? They really aren't absolutely awful. They simply have some major weaknesses that Soulburst actually covers.

Skulnbonz wrote:

Reavers will make an appearance.
So will raiders and MAYBE incubi.
Nothing else though, at least not in top tier tournament lists.

What you WILL see an increase of is Blade and Board wraithknights, as this faction takes away the biggest problem they had... getting across the board quickly, as long as they are backed up by another very fast and hard hitting HTH unit(s) like... oh I don't know... reavers?

My Adepticon list may change.... :-)

Beastmasters and scourges might make an appearance as well. Beasmasters because Khymera are simply an ideal platform for melee buffs and hero delivery, and haywire scourges because they have the unique ability to hurt vehicles the same, regardless of what facing they're shooting at, so that could allow the positioning for some pretty interesting chaining of anti-vehicle attacks if it is determined that the "extra" shooting from power from death allows you more than 1 shot if triggered in your own shooting phase.

How they rule our power from death rule is really going to determine whether this book is amazing, mediocre, or a complete flop. If it's only useable in your opponents turn, basically, then I'd say it's mediocre due to your opponent basically being able to mitigate your bonuses through their own decision-making.

If it is ruled that any "soulburst" action may be taken, regardless of limiting factors like having deep struck, or already shot that turn, then it's incredible. It's possible that it will be something between the two.

If it is ruled that a soulburst action overrides any other limitation that normally would have prevented said action, heat lance reavers might suddenly be hot. Turbo-boost across table, have other shooting kill a unit, soulburst your heat lances into the back of a tank. If you had another unit of heat lance reavers, continue on down the tank line with a heat lance chain of pain. Could chain kill a parking lot in 1 turn with some luck.

I think you will see our HQs, too. The succubus and archon aren't great, but they have exclusive access to WWPs, which is a fantastic tool for a competitive list.

So Shadowseers can fire off Psychic Shriek from Raiders correct? This could cause a ton of triggers.

Yes Shadow Seers can fire Shriek from a Raider but thanks to the FAQ the Leadership effects of the Mask of Secrets doesn't work when inside a raider.