My Summer Camapaign list.

Hey guys, my local gaming group is running a summer campaign in which we strive to conquer this planet against multiple armies and alliances. my list is 1850 and 2500 as in the 1850 has to be in the 2500 list. I'm looking for a little input on my 1850 and I need some changing on my True born because I realized I cannot take 4 splinter cannons. well here is my list:

Dark Eldar: 1850 list.
HQ:
Archon Sevroth the Twisted : Husk Blade, Ghost Plate, shadow field, combat drugs, haywire grenades150pts

Troops:
Kabalite warrior squad: 1 Blaster, Dark Lance , Syrabite, Venom Blade, blast pistol, Raider , Night Shields, Splinter Racks 240pts.
Kabalite Warrior Squad: Syrabite, Venom Blade, Blaster, Splinter Cannon 130pts.
Wych Squad: Hekatrix, Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Hydra Gauntlets, 6 haywire grenades, Raider, Flicker field, Night Shields  215pts

Elites:
Kabalite Trueborn: Dracon, 4x splinter cannon, Venom blade, Venom, Night Shields, Splinter cannon, 3x plasma grenades 188 pts

Fast Attack:
Scourges: Solarite, venomblade, 1x Haywire Blasters, 1 heat Lance 147pts.
Reaver Jet bikes: arena Champion, Heat Lance, power weapon, Cluster caltrops 145pts

Heavy Support:
Ravager: night shields , Flicker Field (3 Disintegrator cannons) 125pts
Razorwing Jet Fighter: 145pts.

Eldar Allies
HQ:
Farseer Idrial Soulstorm: mantle of laughing god, singing spear, runes of warding, runes of witnessing. (170pts)
Troops:
Dire Avengers: dire sword & pistol, disarming strike, battle fortune  (175pts)

Edited this post for excessive points cost. Please don't post the individual point costs of models or items as this is against the forum rules (link). Thanks. - Mush

Not sure how this is usally handled around here but GW tend to dislike when you list everything in detail on forums etc. Ie, upgrade costs first and foremost. Might fly under the radar but i thought I'd at least bring it up.

As for the list. Archon; Ghostplate is usually not worth the dough. Where does he go? With what unit?

Warriors; What is the plan? You are decking them out for both close combat (sybarite +venom blade), long range static shooting (Dark lance), mobile anti infantry (splinter racks, + nightshields) and short range anti tank (blast pistol). What is the purpose here? Upgrades are awesome but Dark Eldar is a specialist army, pick one purpose of the unit and skip the rest of the upgrades. My preference is either gunboating or static big blob.

Wyches: You want these guys into melee range asap, that means Nightshields are only used turn 1 if opponent start essentially. Same goes for Flickerfield, you will be moving the raider every turn for jinx save. Wyches are not the best shooting unit, better to drop the pistol and add another wych. You are putting 66p into wych upgrades (excluding haywires), that is almost 5 wyches that could be added instead to give the same attacking power essentially but adding survivability.

Trueborns: Dracon + Venom blade == CC upgrades mainly. You don't want to kit trueborns for melee. Drop CC upgrades.

Scourges; Same here, Solarite mainly brings CC options (apart from the obvious Ld bonus), drop solarite + venom blade. pick 2 of the same wepon upgrade to match threat bubbles. One tool, specilisation!

Ravager; Should not need flickerfield. Your list has enough AI, dark lances are probably the better option as they are safe AT unlike the close range AT you currently have in blast pistols etc.

Jetfighter; likes flickerfield,

Eldar; don't know enough to comment, Farseer is a good pick up tho!

Thanks man! I didn't even look at it like that. I choose the disintegrator cannons for the ravager ,because I face many terminators in my area so along with my farseer, I cast guide on the ravager and I get 9 st5 ap2 shots with re rolls too hit. It was nice yesterday as it wiped out a whole squad of Grey knight Terminators (6) in one turn and my opponent was pissed. but your insight is definitely helping my list without a doubt.

Also Archon goes with the wytches so I am dropping one and putting them in a raider with a disintegrator cannon to soften up the opponents they assault

Phiandros is correct you shouldn't list the individual point costs of models or wargear, as it is against the forum rules. Thanks.

ok thank you I shall edit it

lobo60 wrote:

ok thank you I shall edit it

Already edited it for you.

Thanks and my new list is:

Dark Eldar: 1850 list.
HQ:

Archon Sevroth the Twisted: Husk Blade, shadow field, combat drugs, haywire grenades 140pts (with the wytch squad)

Troops:

Kabalite warrior squad (10): 1 Blaster, Dark Lance, Syrabite, Venom Blade, Raider, Night Shields, Splinter Racks 235pts.

Kabalite Warrior Squad (20): Syrabite, Venom Blade, Blaster, 2x Splinter Cannon 230pts.

Wych Squad(9): Hekatrix, Agoniser, Hydra Gauntlets, 5 haywire grenades, Raider, Night Shields 188pts

Elites:

Kabalite Trueborn: (5), 2x splinter cannons, 3x shard carbines, venom , Splinter cannon, Night Shields 170pts

Fast Attack:

Scourges: Solarite, 1x Haywire Blasters, 1 heat Lance 142pts.

Reaver Jet bikes: arena Champion, Heat Lance, power weapon, Cluster caltrops 145pts

Heavy Support:

Ravager: night shields, (3 Disintegrator cannons) 115pts

Razorwing Jet Fighter: Flicker Field 155pts.

DE point total: 1,510

Eldar Allies
HQ:

Farseer Idrial Soulstorm: mantle of laughing god, singing spear, runes of warding (155pts)

Troops:

Dire Avengers (10): dire sword & pistol, disarming strike, battle fortune (175pts)
1850pts

with your reavers i would either drop the heat lance or the caltrops because you should be useing them to either turbo over the enemy or to pop tanks with them remember the turbo boost attack doesn't affect vehicles.  I always run reavers in units in units of 6 so that you get 2 of the special weapons doesn't matter what you go with.  The area champion is for CC i would get rid of him for the points.  As Phiandros said

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Dark Eldar is a specialist army

Always keep this in mind.

yea they may need to be dropped for another squad of scourges. or possibly hellions...but I have never actually used hellions in a game

hellions can be tempermental. If there is infantry for them to go after that is their best target. popping vehicles they can do it but they don't excel at it. when i use them i generaly put baron with them. mainly for the stealth. i would run them with a hellarch for sure, with agoniser if it was me i like the 4+ to wound no matter the toughness. and phantasm grenade launcher.

nice. yes the agonizer has been a great weapon for my hekatrix, especially for marine killing. I may give the hellions a run, but if not i'll either give another heat lance or drop the reavers all together

i am still working on perfecting the use of reavers. i have found that i don't really like the heat lances. my next game i am going to try blasters and see how they do. but i really do like the hellions just remember infantry and run at least 10-15 of them. i prefer 15 myself especialy at 1850. they are a lot of fun, screaming on their skateboards.

Hah, they sound good. I am definitely giving them a shot. I used my heat lance last game against a baneblade w/ my reavers. it did well because I had scourges lurking with the haywire blaster and another lance. but yea they really are different because I don't see a point in getting them to melee and the turbo boast is nice with the caltrops but my wytches are waaaaaay better against infantry. so we shall see. I love the models and I love Dark Eldar....my best army no doubt and my favorite to play.

y i really like dark eldar too.  reavers do have a +1 to their jink too remember that its saved them a lot.

if you do run hellions let me know how they do.

So I ran hellions opposite of my wytches and actually performed well against a dark angel ravenwing. Although they where killed by his command squad in turn 3 my archon and his wytch squad(2 pain tokens stronger) was able to get in the assault against his command squad with no overwatch (thanks to the hellions noble sacrifice) and completely wiped his ravenwing and samuel off the board. Another note: my 20 man warrior squad is great. Very good against the high toughness fools and offering 42 shots in turn one to completely kill a bike squad is nice.
Scourges killed a land raider and then where killed
Farseer/ ravager combo is excellent
Flier was shot out of the sky by massed bolters but killed his speeder so eh ill take an overwelming victory over my nemesis/buddy thanks for the input guys, it really helped