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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 10:36

Splitting our codex to three... it makes a lot of sense, however, buying THREE codecii instead of one sucks.

Yarr, and a bottle of rum...
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 10:46

Well maybe that's just me but I dare them make me pay 3 Dexes (i.e. one dex and the two supplements to be able to use a wych/coven themed force) when they could stuff it into the main book just fine.

Even worse if they acutally removed cult and coven stuff from the main dex entirely. I would be so furious.

Lets just hope they give us a decent make-over and adjust some rules and points. Any cool new unit we get is a bonus these days when you look at the last 40k releases.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 19:10

I don't believe that they'll split the codex in three at all, but if they do I'm going to quit playing DE.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 19:23

Cavash wrote:
I don't believe that they'll split the codex in three at all, but if they do I'm going to quit playing DE.

Hardcore

I will, definetly play further.
In worst case i will just download codex(es?), but i hope i will not need this
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 19:30

I assume it's along the lines that there will be the basic codex and two supplements one cult and one coven. But if for some reason you have to buy three codices to have a functional army, and they're not a third the cost of a normal codex, I think I'll just get out of warhammer entirely. I won't support it, and I'll route for GW's downfall.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 19:41

Devilogical wrote:
Cavash wrote:
I don't believe that they'll split the codex in three at all, but if they do I'm going to quit playing DE.

Hardcore

As a student with very little money I'd much rather spend that money on... food, y'know... so I can live.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 20:40

Well, most powerful rosters were just spamming Kabal units, so one can probably live with only a main codex
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 21:08

Personally I don't see GW splitting the codex, if they were to go straight Kabal that's 1 HQ(Assuming they do cut the no model HQs) 2 Elites, 1 Troop, 1 Transport ( Venom is very much Cult) and 2 heavy. Possibly 1 Fast Attack based on how you place Scourges. We don't really have enough troops to split it up.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 30 2014, 23:40

Welll....... if they chop up the codex I have heard of a way to download for free after they have been out a little while so I am not too worried but ...... If they do it is a cheap ass shot at gouging us players of the 40k yet again like the other codexes.... i will not pay like $150 for 3 codexes that used to be one.....

Would really like to know at what point in the GW company timeline they decided it was best to screw with the stats for certain weapons that basically functioned fine and have us relearn about CCW/PW capabilities and generally jack up all the codexes one way or another because they all are/did......

Keep pulling stupid stuff and maybe just maybe they will destroy 40k like they did WF.....
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 00:11

They wont split it. Why is that possibility even being suggested? (Grey knight? Inquisition and assassins should never have been in that book to begin with.)
If anything, it's a main codex (with all of the units in it along with their rules) and two supplements with formations, different FOC, relics, and warlord traits, just like every other supplement published in 7th. I'll buy the codex for the rules and buy the cult supplement if only for the fluff.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 01:30

The BoLS/Natfka rumors today are pretty bad. There is just no way GW would split DE into 3 books. I'm *hoping* we get two but I think that's incredibly unlikely. DE have great models but let's be real, they aren't a center piece of the 40k universe. Heck we've barely had any FW love at all and DE were just an add on force for the apoc supplement they were in.

Plastic tantalus, is a big maybe. The only way I see this happening is if FW just gives up trying to produce that model and GW wants to release an actual Dias model and not just something like the space wolf silliness.

Incubi being priced cheaper than wracks? Lol. That runs completely counter to how GW prices stuff.

All in all I'd say ignore those posts
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 04:29

clively wrote:
The BoLS/Natfka rumors today are pretty bad. There is just no way GW would split DE into 3 books.  I'm *hoping* we get two but I think that's incredibly unlikely.   DE have great models but let's be real, they aren't a center piece of the 40k universe.  Heck we've barely had any FW love at all and DE were just an add on force for the apoc supplement they were in.

Plastic tantalus, is a big maybe.  The only way I see this happening is if FW just gives up trying to produce that model and GW wants to release an actual Dias model and  not just something like the space wolf silliness.

Incubi being priced cheaper than wracks?  Lol.  That runs completely counter to how GW prices stuff.

All in all I'd say ignore those posts  
The cheaper Incubi likely means a plastic set of five, like hellions and scourges, possibly a duel kit with trueborn. It came from Father Gab originally who has close to 100% accuracy in his rumors so I wouldn't dismiss that one out of hand.
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Bibitybopitybacon wrote:
They wont split it. Why is that possibility even being suggested? (Grey knight? Inquisition and assassins should never have been in that book to begin with.)
If anything, it's a main codex (with all of the units in it along with their rules) and two supplements with formations, different FOC, relics, and warlord traits, just like every other supplement published in 7th. I'll buy the codex for the rules and buy the cult supplement if only for the fluff.

Same.
I begin DE with wych cult, so i will buy wych suppl, but coven units doesn`t bother me (i have them, but not as the core army)

Too bad i don`t have money for that Sad
If new redaction will come in september, than i can buy something only october-november
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 14:34

I haven't read the last page but why would they split a DE codex? That's the dumbest idea ever. They're already one of the least played armies so why would you give them three codexes? What would they be anyways? A Coven, Wych, and Kabal one all with like 15 options? I'd rather not. If anything will get a Codex and a Black Heart supplement.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 15:22

IMO coven is distinctive enough to merit a supplement. Really opens things up. Make Wracks troops in the supplement, loads of extra coveny options.

Alternatively, they might have meant a specific wych cult and specific coven supplement. Cult of Strife and Prophets of Flesh (or whatever Urien's one is called).
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 17:15

Panic_Puppet wrote:
IMO coven is distinctive enough to merit a supplement. Really opens things up. Make Wracks troops in the supplement, loads of extra coveny options.

Alternatively, they might have meant a specific wych cult and specific coven supplement. Cult of Strife and Prophets of Flesh (or whatever Urien's one is called).

I agree with this idea. It makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 17:42

Coven is distinctive enough to do so although I really think it'll be Black Heart.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 19:46

We won't get three books. I'd be surprised if we got two to be honest!
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 20:33

Why's that Believer? Haven't all the releases before us got supplements?
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 20:41

Well the rumour about the Tantalus seems to be cleared. He is on a list to be sold at some event - but it is the actual FW Tantalus, so no new one.

Regarding the three books. I think it is pretty obvious. The codex will be heavily fixed on the Kabals, but with still the option to use all units. The two other books will feature loss of background and additional rules to play with a cult or a coven.
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Crazy_Irish wrote:
Well the rumour about the Tantalus seems to be cleared. He is on a list to be sold at some event - but it is the actual FW Tantalus, so no new one.

Regarding the three books. I think it is pretty obvious. The codex will be heavily fixed on the Kabals, but with still the option to use all units. The two other books will feature loss of background and additional rules to play with a cult or a coven.

We are not the almighty race of 40k. There is noway we'll be the only army with three books.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 21:19

Didn't the space wolves technically get three?
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One of them was pure fluff/painting if I remember correctly. Don't care about any flavor of Marines all that much though. Could be wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 31 2014, 23:06

Really I'm still surprised we're getting one at all this quickly. When I was umming and ahhing about whether to start collecting again a few years ago, my friend asked me what I was collecting last. I told him Dark Eldar, and he said they'd just had a new book. I didn't realise that by "new book", he meant that the one I had been playing with ten years previously had only just been replaced. I'd like it if we got any supplements really - not saying I'd necessarily buy it, but anything that allows us more options (if we're prepared to pay for them of course) is good.
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PostSubject: Re: New Dex in the late fall   New Dex in the late fall - Page 7 I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 01 2014, 01:40

I don't understand why GW is so insistent on trying to make money off of pictures of painted models. Twenty years ago it might have worked, but why would I pay for a book when I can see better paint jobs on the internet for free?

Hell, I can just visit the painting and modelling section here in the Dark City to get my fix.
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